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			thats why the only auction I'd consign to is BST
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			Probably the reason for PWCC and Probstein's following(lack of hammer fees).
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			As strictly a buyer I do not care what premium is applied on the sale, only that I know what is is up front so that I can factor it into the price I am willing to pay for the item. I get more annoyed by unstated/unexpectedly high shipping/insurance charges
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			Exactly. The people who should be most concerned about high buyer's premiums are consignors.
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			20% will definitely make me take pause when considering next consignment. There are other options out there for sure.
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			It continues to amaze how many people do not understand this.
		 
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			Ah, the "juice."  Making unaffordable cards even more unaffordable since its inception.  By the time you buy a $100 card, it's $120, but no wait, it may be as high as $140 after shipping, heck of a deal.
		 
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			And here I was thinking how great it was that I was picking up $100 cards with $75 bids.
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			Yes, I agree, so many people don't "get" that actually bid price in most cases is 20% below final price...that's why VCP and others always use final price and it almost always matches the non-auction values...
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			I agree.  The ones who suffer the most are the consigners.  They would get more, if it wasn't for the hammer price, etc.
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			I live in CA, so sites like heritage and memory lane have an effective 30% premium with tax (8.5%) and shipping added in.  It makes it hard to compete with guys bidding in states with no sales tax.
		 
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			+1
		 
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			One would think that the hammer price for an item in a 0% Buyer's Premium auction would be about 20% higher than the hammer price for the same item in a 20% Buyer's Premium auction................ but then again that would presume that all bidders are thinking.   
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			they both have hammer fees. PWCC's are just as bad as the major AH's. At least Probsteins are reasonable
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