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Old 08-14-2015, 07:45 PM
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do you want to get started Rob????
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:47 PM
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explain double exposure ghosts.....vs cylindrical reverse ghosts on backs....

scrap vs. factory cuts....

WHATS AN OVERPRINT vs. UNDERPRINT ghost??????reverse negative???? brown impression layer......


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Old 08-14-2015, 07:49 PM
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explain double exposure ghosts.....vs cylindrical reverse ghosts on backs....

scrap vs. factory cuts....

WHATS AN OVERPRINT vs. UNDERPRINT ghost??????reverse negative???? brown impression layer......


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Somewhere along the line, you've convinced yourself that I represent myself as an expert on T206 scrap. I haven't. I'm not even all that interested in it. In fact, I've never claimed to be an expert on anything. Just never felt the need.

However, it's doesn't take a genius to figure out that a baseball card that sells for less than $40,000 in Heritage Auctions should not have sold for $100,000. It seems everyone except you can grasp that.

That, and only that, was the basis of my post. But again, I don't expect you to grasp that or acknowledge it.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf

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Old 08-14-2015, 07:49 PM
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Default Robert.....

There are a certain "type" of printer's scrap related to the printing of "MEN OF HISTORY " series..... I credit Erick Summers to breaking this scrap code of print correlation...

I will look for scans and the link....
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:51 PM
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your an idiot....

I am going to educate people I care about....

caramel card.....great question....
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:52 PM
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JOHN VANDERBECK....

btw........I had to let it out......don't care about you either
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:54 PM
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Yeah, repeated use of smilies--great touch that never grows old.
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Old 08-14-2015, 07:54 PM
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maybe Erick can post the link where he "cracked the code".....

btw....Todd....your next
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your next
We just covered this.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf (trying to educate)

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Old 08-14-2015, 08:00 PM
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!

you are pathetic!!!

soooooooooooo LAME!!!

that just made me CRACK up!

you put down scrap and their value ....... AND YOUR CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!

you have no idea what they are

dude....currect me spilling Rob D...

Hi lame Todd also....your(HA) did I use this write Rob??? hehehehe six grader that will school you son


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your an idiot....

I am going to educate people I care about....

caramel card.....great question....
Your

You're.

There, I'm educating a person I care about.

Baby steps. That's a lot for one day.

Edited to add: R0b Dew0lf (trying to educate)

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Mrvster, please put your name on your posts, per forum rules. Typically, I ignore most t206 threads, including yours about scrap, etc., as they don't interest me. But since you continue to blather on with the tone and substance of a sixth grader in a thread that otherwise is of interest to me, I think you should own up to your masterpiece posts with your name. Then please either hit the bottle or put it down, whatever stops your diarrhea of the keyboard.
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Default Leon

I should have gone for it. I put my card resources in a few other directions and now regret it, but overall you did very well. Congratulations.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:09 AM
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I was able to snag 2 blank backs, T205 McConnell and the T207 Street. I was the underbidder on the T206 Mullaney as well. Oh well, sometimes chicken sometimes chicken residue !!
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Old 08-15-2015, 08:07 AM
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Let's put it this way. Johnny has an enormous amount of passion. He has always participated on this board sharing scans and information. He regularly posts and not just to bump or plug his own BST threads. He's the first guy to compliment other collectors on cards or their collections. He takes the time with others to try and further the knowledge of the T206 set and shares what he knows. He actually posts cards from his collection for others to enjoy.

That's a hell of a lot more than the bulk of the members here ever do. So he over estimated a couple of cards. Who cares he's not in the auction business. Heritage had a few higher estimates on a handful of Leon's cards and they fell below estimates...anyone gonna start slapping them around?

With all the scumbags in this hobby, stolen items being offered for sale, blatantly false lot descriptions etc. I would think we as collectors would have better things to police than a passionate collector who tossed a dart at a price and missed.

In reagards to Johnny's emoticons and personality as Warren Zevon said...he's just an excitable boy.

Cheers,

John

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Anyone here win the sporting life lot and want to part with the Johnson and Coombs please let me know )
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Old 08-15-2015, 08:54 AM
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Let's put it this way. Johnny has an enormous amount of passion. He has always participated on this board sharing scans and information. He regularly posts and not just to bump or plug his own BST threads. He's the first guy to compliment other collectors on cards or their collections. He takes the time with others to try and further the knowledge of the T206 set and shares what he knows. He actually posts cards from his collection for others to enjoy.

That's a hell of a lot more than the bulk of the members here ever do. So he over estimated a couple of cards. Who cares he's not in the auction business. Heritage had a few higher estimates on a handful of Leon's cards and they fell below estimates...anyone gonna start slapping them around?

With all the scumbags in this hobby, stolen items being offered for sale, blatantly false lot descriptions etc. I would think we as collectors would have better things to police than a passionate collector who tossed a dart at a price and missed.

In reagards to Johnny's emoticons and personality as Warren Zevon said...he's just an excitable boy.

Cheers,

John
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Thanks John, anyone who has ever talked with Johnny knows how passionate he is about collecting T206's, especially scrap. It's not an act, that's just Johnny.
It's not about money for him, he truly loves the cards, sometimes maybe too much...
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Old 08-15-2015, 09:43 AM
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Not take aways from the big t206 scrap fight but on a side note I picked these two premiums up...
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Johnny is passionate and emotional about his cards and everyone else's cards. Enjoy the enthusiasm as it is far from the norm and rarely seen here. I speak with him on many T206 questions and he has helped me gain an understanding of scrap. I do ask his opinion on pricing but I know its simply just an opinion. We compared notes on the 2 cards in question and each had our opinion. No harm no foul just an opinion.

Thanks Johnny for the help in my learning about scrap and its value.


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Let's put it this way. Johnny has an enormous amount of passion. He has always participated on this board sharing scans and information. He regularly posts and not just to bump or plug his own BST threads. He's the first guy to compliment other collectors on cards or their collections. He takes the time with others to try and further the knowledge of the T206 set and shares what he knows. He actually posts cards from his collection for others to enjoy.

That's a hell of a lot more than the bulk of the members here ever do. So he over estimated a couple of cards. Who cares he's not in the auction business. Heritage had a few higher estimates on a handful of Leon's cards and they fell below estimates...anyone gonna start slapping them around?

With all the scumbags in this hobby, stolen items being offered for sale, blatantly false lot descriptions etc. I would think we as collectors would have better things to police than a passionate collector who tossed a dart at a price and missed.

In reagards to Johnny's emoticons and personality as Warren Zevon said...he's just an excitable boy.

Cheers,

John
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Its funny I just wanted the Ruth.
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Let's put it this way. Johnny has an enormous amount of passion. He has always participated on this board sharing scans and information. He regularly posts and not just to bump or plug his own BST threads. He's the first guy to compliment other collectors on cards or their collections. He takes the time with others to try and further the knowledge of the T206 set and shares what he knows. He actually posts cards from his collection for others to enjoy.

That's a hell of a lot more than the bulk of the members here ever do. So he over estimated a couple of cards. Who cares he's not in the auction business. Heritage had a few higher estimates on a handful of Leon's cards and they fell below estimates...anyone gonna start slapping them around?

With all the scumbags in this hobby, stolen items being offered for sale, blatantly false lot descriptions etc. I would think we as collectors would have better things to police than a passionate collector who tossed a dart at a price and missed.

In reagards to Johnny's emoticons and personality as Warren Zevon said...he's just an excitable boy.

Cheers,

John
Johnny has sunk a lot of time into coaching me on the finer points of all things T206. He has pointed out resources I can go to so that I can educate myself. In addition, he has shared scans of many items from his own collection. I can't even begin to tell you what an incredible resource he is, and how much he has gone out of his way to just help another collector. If I had had someone like him when I first started collecting postwar cards years ago, I wouldn't have made all the mistakes that I made. Is he passionate? Yes! And in a world of collecting that has simply become all about profit and bottom line, I can appreciate that passion. The fact that an advanced collector like Johnny takes the time to fool with a T206 newbie like me speaks volumes, and I won't forget it.
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Agree w/John re Johnny. If I had a buck for every wrong SWAG I've made I'd not be working.

Brad, I don't know what those premiums are but they are brilliant.
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