Junk wax anyone?

[Peter_Spaeth]

And at the same time, a card of a guy with a .258 average and 20 home runs at age 23 sells for 15K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BGS-9-5-KRIS...item1ea1ee4440

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And at the same time, a card of a guy with a .258 average and 20 home runs at age 23 sells for 15K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BGS-9-5-KRIS...item1ea1ee4440

I don't think that one sells for 15k. It looks like he has one from 2013 that did last month though. What do you think the odds are that card is even worth 1500 in 10 years?

[Peter_Spaeth]

I don't understand the shiny market but it seems to be driven by two things: manufactured scarcity (although there seem to be innumerable barely distinguishable "scarce" versions of the same rookie card) and speculation on players who have in some cases not even put on a uniform, as if they were lock first-ballot HOFers.

[pokerplyr80]

I don't get it either. Although I wish I was opening bowman products Mike Trout's rookie year. I think a few of his cards still have some potential upside, although not without plenty of risk.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Trout is a great player, but at the same time he strikes out a lot (led the league last year), and his stolen bases have fallen way off from his rookie year, so we will see what happens.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Trout is a great player, but at the same time he strikes out a lot (led the league last year), and his stolen bases have fallen way off from his rookie year, so we will see what happens.

Mickey Mantle led in strike outs 5 times and Babe Ruth did 4 times (5 if you include his pitching years). Leading in Strike Outs means nothing to HOF voters or even fans for that matter.

Matter of fact Mike Trout hit more Home Runs and had a higher OPS than Mantle in both of their 22year old seasons. I am not saying Trout is for sure a 1st round HOF, it is too early to say. I am only saying you can not base it off Strike Outs or Stolen Bases (which Trout also leads Mantle 16-5 in their 22 year old season).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Mantle never struck out more than 120 or so times. Trout already has a 180 under his belt. That's Adam Dunn territory. Along with two 130s. And 116 this year with a month plus to go. Of course he could nevertheless be an all time great, just pointing out a note of caution. And the falloff in stolen bases from his rookie year -- when of course he was considered one of those rare marvels combining power and speed -- has been quite dramatic. 49 33 16 10.