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Old 08-26-2015, 08:52 PM
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The HOF rookie list is a fabricated list of many non-period cards of the players. Who choose who's on the list? It wouldn't take long to have the people on this board come up with the "real" list, but of course no one would be able to get them all, but it's a lot more fun chasing those than 1988 Swell Arnie Herber's, 1990 Pro Set Al Davis, or 1994 Police Bud Grant, 1974 Fleer Paddy Driscoll. I guess I'll have to settle for low grade examples of 1932 Walker Cleaner Packers Arnie Herbert, 1963 Coke Cap of Al Davis, 1954 Blue Ribbon Bud Grant, or 1928 Star Player Paddy Driscoll.


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Old 08-26-2015, 09:27 PM
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I started working on a HOF rookie collection about 6 months ago, I'm up to about 1/3 of the cards needed thus far. I'm not going all sgc,psa or anything...mine are a mix, I have sgc, psa, and a lot of Raw as well. I am trying to stay a little bit higher grade than that auction listed for most of the cards anyways. I really do wish I had kept track of what I've spent on them so far but I haven't at all really, though I have been deal hunting, not just grabbing first thing I find.

This so far has been the most enjoyable and addicting thing Ive attempted in my 20 years of card collecting. Let me know how your collection comes together.
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Old 08-27-2015, 04:26 AM
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The HOF rookie list is a fabricated list of many non-period cards of the players. Who choose who's on the list? It wouldn't take long to have the people on this board come up with the "real" list, but of course no one would be able to get them all, but it's a lot more fun chasing those than 1988 Swell Arnie Herber's, 1990 Pro Set Al Davis, or 1994 Police Bud Grant, 1974 Fleer Paddy Driscoll. I guess I'll have to settle for low grade examples of 1932 Walker Cleaner Packers Arnie Herbert, 1963 Coke Cap of Al Davis, 1954 Blue Ribbon Bud Grant, or 1928 Star Player Paddy Driscoll.
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I completely agree, Carl. To me its silly to call a 1988 Arnie Herber his rookie card. I believe the rookie card phenomenon is a manifestation of two things:

1) It seems to have always been the unwritten rule that a rookie card has to come from a "mainstream" set that was distributed nationally if at all possible. I'm not sure if this rule was pushed by Topps and other card manufacturers or came from dealers wanting to make sure they had plenty of rookie cards to sell.

2) The grading companies would never advocate that rookie cards be designated in scarce sets like Star Player Candy as then hardly anyone would work on a HOF registry set as completing it would be pretty much hopeless and hopeless equals less grading fees for them!

Either way it is clear that the driver behind rookie card designations is $$$$, not what is truly the players first card.

I'm very content to focus on trying to get "pre-rookie" cards of HOFers from the scarce sets you mention even if these cards aren't designated as rookie cards. I agree its a lot more fun chasing those but don't begrudge anyone who wants to try and complete an official rookie card set ... that's still a tall task!

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Old 11-04-2015, 09:01 AM
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I completely agree, Carl. To me its silly to call a 1988 Arnie Herber his rookie card. I believe the rookie card phenomenon is a manifestation of two things:

1) It seems to have always been the unwritten rule that a rookie card has to come from a "mainstream" set that was distributed nationally if at all possible. I'm not sure if this rule was pushed by Topps and other card manufacturers or came from dealers wanting to make sure they had plenty of rookie cards to sell.

2) The grading companies would never advocate that rookie cards be designated in scarce sets like Star Player Candy as then hardly anyone would work on a HOF registry set as completing it would be pretty much hopeless and hopeless equals less grading fees for them!

Either way it is clear that the driver behind rookie card designations is $$$$, not what is truly the players first card.

I'm very content to focus on trying to get "pre-rookie" cards of HOFers from the scarce sets you mention even if these cards aren't designated as rookie cards. I agree its a lot more fun chasing those but don't begrudge anyone who wants to try and complete an official rookie card set ... that's still a tall task!

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Old 11-08-2015, 12:09 PM
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Haven't posted in awhile. Here are some of my iconic RC's.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:44 PM
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Nice centering on Namath psa 6.5 rookie.
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Old 11-10-2015, 07:18 PM
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Is this one iconic? I actually voted for this when PSA did the Mount Rushmore of football cards. HOFer, popular set, from a rare series. And aesthetically, there's just something I like about that Penn uniform. The Met made a comment about the use of primary colors when they put Burdick's collection on display for the SB - it made me think of this card:
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Old 11-10-2015, 09:09 PM
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Thanks for the comment on the Namath. It's one of my favorites. I equate it to the 1952 Topps Mantle version of football cards. Short print from a popular set, charismatic NY star and unrealized potential due to injury (what-if mystique).

Hi John,
I don't know if I would consider the 1948 Leaf Bednarik to be an iconic card. I don't mean that as a slight to the card at all. I don't even own one...yet (nice copy by the way). I think it's totally undervalued but I don't consider Bednarik to be on the same plane as Baugh with respect to legacy and historical significance. It is a great set & great player but you could also make a case for the Luckman being an iconic card as well. At some point I think you have to make a cutoff and I just stopped at Baugh.

Also, what I posted isn't an all-inclusive list of "iconic" cards, just some that I chose (my favorites).
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