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Old 09-09-2015, 09:16 AM
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We knew that the statement provided by Mike Martz was changed to include things he never said? Or, that the Patriots had seven years worth of film, covering some 40 games?

This is just the tip of the iceberg. I think more comes out, and it gets worse and worse for both the NFL and Kraft/Belichick.
Kraft was reported to have been very upset with Belichick when Spygate was revealed and even called him a schmuck. Do you think this is fabricated and that Kraft was complicit?
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Old 09-09-2015, 09:35 AM
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Kraft was reported to have been very upset with Belichick when Spygate was revealed and even called him a schmuck. Do you think this is fabricated and that Kraft was complicit?
Peter, if I'm an NFL owner, and I find out that my head coach is cheating, I can him immediately. Period. I don't call him "a schmuck", either behind closed doors, or in public. I show him the door. So, if that's all Kraft did, he put winning above his own integrity, and yes, I have to question his involvement.

It will be telling what happens from here. ESPN has just thrown down the gauntlet, accusing the NFL Commissioner, and the billionaire owner of the New England Patriots, of colluding to cover up evidence of rules violations. If there is not truth to the allegations--if all those people they "interviewed" don't exist, I would expect a libel suit to follow. If nothing happens, it's a form of passive acknowledgement that the accusations are, in fact, true.
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Kraft was reported to have been very upset with Belichick when Spygate was revealed and even called him a schmuck. Do you think this is fabricated and that Kraft was complicit?
In context, he called him a schmuck simply because he knew he was lying to him. Or, if the advantage he stated he was accomplishing was true at such a high level of cheating it was pure incompetence.

Being mad that he didn't do better with the cheating advantage or honestly state that he did is not taking action and stopping the cheating or dismissing the guilty.

Is he 100% complicit by turning a blind eye and by lack of action allowing his team to maintain a current and past history of "bending" the rules like a spring willow branch?

Abso-freaking-lutely.

One does not hire a fox to guard the henhouse and be surprised at the results
unless he is an idiot.

Kraft's Patriots have consistently run under an algorithm of victories>honor. Buying the commissioner is just business as usual and the standard modus operandi.

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