I think Big Papi is winning me over - even if I don't want him to

[Jim65]

He's a cheater, I hope he gets less than 5% in his first year and falls off the ballot.

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by Jim65

He's a cheater, I hope he gets less than 5% in his first year and falls off the ballot.

Little bitter there, Jim?

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Little bitter there, Jim?

You wanna be a fan of a guy who breaks the rules, that's your right, doesn't mean I have to.

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by Jim65

You wanna be a fan of a guy who breaks the rules, that's your right, doesn't mean I have to.

I'm also a Tom Brady fan!

[freakhappy]

He's a major league ball player putting up HOF numbers = HOFer...end of story.

I don't care if he was a punter in the NFL. If he is the best at his position, you have to look and judge him for it. It's very very difficult to do what he's done and he's still doing it at age 39. Haters can hate all they want, but if you open your eyes, he's a HOFer over and over again. And if I'm not mistaken, didn't a few HOFers come out and admit to using illegal substances in their playing days? Let's get off of our high horse and give the man credit for being a great player. Look at what Arod is doing this year. He cheated, but let's be honest, he's a HOFer over and over whether we want to admit it or not. One of the best to ever play. He'll most likely never get in...at least right away, but he's an elite ballplayer and there's no denying it.

[packs]

He is not a HOFer, he is a cheater. Always has been, always will be. Difference between him and a guy like Jason Giambi is integrity. Jason Giambi admitted what he did. Ortiz has denied, denied, denied.

No room for you in my hall.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by packs

He is not a HOFer, he is a cheater. Always has been, always will be. Difference between him and a guy like Jason Giambi is integrity. Jason Giambi admitted what he did. Ortiz has denied, denied, denied.

No room for you in my hall.

A big +1 for me also. Before he went to the Red Sox and discovered steroids he could not even make the everyday lineup in Minnesota.