And let the games begin - REA is underway!

[Bored5000]

Looks like collectors are flooding in to place bids on the modern Helmars. So far, only five of the 15 lots of modern Helmars have attracted an opening bid. I don't "hate" those cards for what they are, but I don't really understand why they have been in REA the past couple auctions.

Eddie Sm*th

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Looks like collectors are flooding in to place bids on the modern Helmars. So far, only five of the 15 lots of modern Helmars have attracted an opening bid. I don't "hate" those cards for what they are, but I don't really understand why they have been in REA the past couple auctions.

Eddie Sm*th

I could never understand this either. Arguably the most prestigious auction house for cards having cards that I don't believe PSA, SGC, nor Beckett will holder and aren't listed in the Standard Catalog or other baseball card reference guides. Just seems very out of place.

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by glchen

I could never understand this either. Arguably the most prestigious auction house for cards having cards that I don't believe PSA, SGC, nor Beckett will holder and aren't listed in the Standard Catalog or other baseball card reference guides. Just seems very out of place.

Why does anything need to be in a catalog (or in a holder) to justify being sold?

Auction houses will sell Leroy Neiman paintings. The bar couldn't be lowered more than that.

[glchen]

I think I've mentioned this before in one of the Helmar threads, but I am unsure whether these cards have the proper licensing. That is, for example, are the proper royalties being paid to the estate of Babe Ruth when his cards are issued by Helmar? Usually TPG's will not holder cards that are not properly licensed.

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by glchen

Usually TPG's will not holder cards that are not properly licensed.

Huh?

Who cares about TPG's, in this case? The Helmar "cards" are not graded and not being sold that way. They're fantasy things. Please lighten up.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by bcornell

Huh?

Who cares about TPG's, in this case? The Helmar "cards" are not graded and not being sold that way. They're fantasy things. Please lighten up.

I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I thought vendors could be sued by the estate for selling items that aren't licensed. Sure, these are fantasy items, but they're not being given away for free. Of course, if Helmar "cards" have been properly licensed, then I take back everything I've said here.

[Kevin.Shenker]

Originally Posted by glchen

I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I thought vendors could be sued by the estate for selling items that aren't licensed. Sure, these are fantasy items, but they're not being given away for free. Of course, if Helmar "cards" have been properly licensed, then I take back everything I've said here.

I think they are very attractive cards, but I dislike how minimal the advertisement is on them being modern, fakes/reprints.

If you search for t206 the only thing in the title are the quote marks around it is "t206" with quote marks around it in the title.

The description only says "Collection of eighty-six different cards, similar in design to the popular T206 White-Border tobacco cards, issued by the Helmar Brewing Company. "

and

"Like all of the Helmar issues, these cards were intentionally produced with a distressed look, with most having rounded corners and rubbed edges."

Shouldn't it say, 2015 Helmar or something to that affect to make it more clear this is not a real vintage card?

Additionally, would an an auction house catch some heat if they sell wagner reprints for 5 bucks a clip? I would agree it seems out of place.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by bcornell

Why does anything need to be in a catalog (or in a holder) to justify being sold?

Auction houses will sell Leroy Neiman paintings. The bar couldn't be lowered more than that.

I agree. He barely paints within the numbers.

[rocarroll]

+1 Oh boy oh boy someones original artwork! I'm so excited. I can't wait for the painted plate editions. Will REA auction off my cool stain glass windows of the Atlanta Braves I made too?

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Looks like collectors are flooding in to place bids on the modern Helmars. So far, only five of the 15 lots of modern Helmars have attracted an opening bid. I don't "hate" those cards for what they are, but I don't really understand why they have been in REA the past couple auctions.

Eddie Sm*th

[BengoughingForAwhile]

Catalog just arrived....Was hoping for a mini magnet.

[RCMcKenzie]

Some neat stuff as always..Didn't see the Han Solo, but I may have to put in a bid or two on Patrick McGoohan's co-workers cape..

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Some neat stuff as always..Didn't see the Han Solo, but I may have to put in a bid or two on Patrick McGoohan's co-workers cape..

That's mine.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by BengoughingForAwhile

Catalog just arrived....Was hoping for a mini magnet.

Got mine today...that cover is a wet dream.

[mrvster]

is a great auction! Some AWESOME T206 freaks/ errors/ scraps and rare backs

[asphaltman]

Originally Posted by mrvster

is a great auction! Some AWESOME T206 freaks/ errors/ scraps and rare backs

It's got some nice stuff, just not the REA eye candy I'm used to seeing. But I think that has a lot to do with REA going from the one auction a year a few years ago to the two. Just so much harder to keep up with the amount of stuff Rob was able to dish out in that one auction a year and try to multiply all that by two.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by asphaltman

It's got some nice stuff, just not the REA eye candy I'm used to seeing. But I think that has a lot to do with REA going from the one auction a year a few years ago to the two. Just so much harder to keep up with the amount of stuff Rob was able to dish out in that one auction a year and try to multiply all that by two.

Yep, that's my take too. I think it will be hard for the fall auction to escape second fiddle status--selling collectors are too entrenched in putting their best stuff in the spring auction.

Highest regards,

Larry

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by BengoughingForAwhile

Catalog just arrived....Was hoping for a mini magnet.

I had forgotten the passion that a REA auction catalogue can bring. Just an observation but it seems that the freaky stuff, ghost images, scraps, wet sheet
transfer etc gets more attention than it deserves. If that is where the future money is then let others have it. I will say that the grading company gurus really pulled one out when they decided to keep track of the rare and rarer T206 backs. Pure marketing genius. When I can't sleep, I often recall a special T206 card now long gone, a T206 Griffith batting PSA 7 with a Drum back. We all have had ones like that, I know. John

[kmac32]

Any idea how long it takes to enable an account for bidding once you fill out the information online for REA?

[Stampsfan]

I got my new account enabled in less than a day. That was about a week ago.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I had forgotten the passion that a REA auction catalogue can bring. Just an observation but it seems that the freaky stuff, ghost images, scraps, wet sheet
transfer etc gets more attention than it deserves. If that is where the future money is then let others have it. I will say that the grading company gurus really pulled one out when they decided to keep track of the rare and rarer T206 backs. Pure marketing genius. When I can't sleep, I often recall a special T206 card now long gone, a T206 Griffith batting PSA 7 with a Drum back. We all have had ones like that, I know. John

I don't think the grading companies keeping track of the rare cards has any effect on the attention or the actual price they bring. The people who collect
these already know how rare they are without the grading companies pointing it out.

[Wildfireschulte]

It's always curious when lots get pulled without an expaination. I wonder what happened to Lot 971 - Lemon Peel Baseball?