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Old 10-02-2015, 09:24 PM
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Here it is, thanks Mac for emailing me the pic: My opinion on the grade if it was deemed Authentic and there are no hairline creases, my hunch is that it would grade a 6 based on the lower left corner and particularly the centering. Just my 2 cents.... mike
PS This is based on my having sent over 500 cards to PSA/SGC/Beckett in the last 2 years. If it was centered, its most likely an 8 but the centering drops it at least 2 grades.


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Old 10-04-2015, 10:36 AM
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SGC lists "any STAR Company basketball" under the heading "Cards We Do Not Grade"
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Old 10-11-2015, 07:06 PM
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Beckett 7 or even 7.5 as the centering is only one of four subs.
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:24 PM
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I understand that but look at that centering, it is even a bit miscut as the top left border is closer than the lower left border and its pretty far O/C so if Beckett gave it a generous 6 or 6.5 on centering the total can't be higher than .5 of the lowest grade in all 4 areas. I think its a strong 6 with any company but someone said SGC does not grade these and I suspect PSA may not either.

PS Beckett does say that in rare cases a card can grade higher than .5 of lowest grade but the other sub grades have to be in the GEM MINT stratosphere to obtain those "gifts".

This is from their site:

The overall numerical grade is not a simple average of the four report card grades. Beckett Grading Services uses an algorithm which determines the final grade using the 4 sub grades on the front label of the card holder. The lowest overall grade is the first category to observe because it is the most obvious defect, and the lowest grade is the most heavily weighted in determining the overall grade.

Example :
Centering = 9.5
Corners = 9.5
Edges = 9
Surface = 8
Final grade = 8.5


Another example :
Centering = 9.5
Corners = 9.5
Edges = 8.5
Surface = 9
Final grade = 9

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Old 10-12-2015, 07:52 PM
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7.5 with 6.5 edges.
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:22 PM
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I admit their site says one thing and..... well you know. That is also a very rough 7.5 and the one you posted on the main board was an absolute joke as you noted and was clearly OVERGRADED badly.

I think the TPGs actually thrive on all the confusion out there. Sort of like reverse psychology!

Thanks, mike
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