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View Poll Results: What should a dealer do if this card comes raw to your table at a show?
Feign ignorance and buy the card for under $100 36 19.05%
Educate the seller and offer a minor discount off of a recent auction sale? 83 43.92%
Inform the seller about some recent comparable sales and suggest an auction house 58 30.69%
Tell him its garbage and tell him to go away 12 6.35%
Voters: 189. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-06-2015, 02:55 PM
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Probably best to have a nice will in place outlying everything you have and what the value of it is and what to do with it. If you don't, a shady card dealer is the least of your worries. Getting it probated through court will cost you a whole hell of a lot more than mom losing a $100 on a graded card. If you don't take care of your affairs properly that's on you.

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As someone who has had a couple deaths in the family this year (and had to deal with old items I knew nothing about), I just hope I don't get hit by a bus tomorrow and my mother (who knows nothing about cards and barely uses the internet) doesn't get taken advantage by some of you guys just because she shows up somewhere with a bunch of graded cards. That's pretty weak in my opinion.
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Old 10-06-2015, 04:43 PM
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Probably best to have a nice will in place outlying everything you have and what the value of it is and what to do with it. If you don't, a shady card dealer is the least of your worries. Getting it probated through court will cost you a whole hell of a lot more than mom losing a $100 on a graded card. If you don't take care of your affairs properly that's on you.
I keep a spreadsheet with every price I paid for the card, where I bought it and when, along with the auction catalogue and the item number written in the front cover of it. Additionally a long list of contacts to consult before making any moves, in case the inevitable happens.

I also have talked to said people who will be in the recipients of said assets so they are aware of what they will be receiving.

Lets hope that doesn't earn me a bullet.

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Old 10-06-2015, 05:02 PM
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As a dealer I've run across scenarios like this, both in my own dealings and being within earshot of other dealers.

A lot of dealers are sharks. They would feign ignorance, buy it for pennies, and crow to others about the deal they got, as someone in this thread mentioned earlier.

Whether I'm buying a $10 lot of commons or a $3000 card I always ask the seller what he's looking for. I also always have a price in mind when I do so. I do this for two reasons:

1) If the seller thinks what he has is much more valuable than it is, I don't want him thinking I am lowballing him, and risk having him turned off from the hobby, telling others I'm a crook, etc. I can't tell you the number of times someone with a 5000 count box of 80s commons has wanted between $200 and $500 for it.
2) If the seller isn't aware of the value, I tell him I'll pay more.

Even though I think the show is scripted crap, you can see the latter happen sometimes on Pawn Stars. To me, it's the right thing to do.

In general the number in my head is the max I'm willing to pay. No one would willingly want to pay the max they're willing to pay for anything.

If someone comes to my table with a $300 card, and I'm willing to pay $175, and he asks for $20, I would tell him that's not nearly enough, let him know what he has is valuable, and offer something more like $125. He's happy and feels treated appropriately. I'm happy because I got a card I wanted for less than I wanted to pay for it.

Now, as for whether the reverse is true...unless it's an egregious error on the dealer's part, or something that I think wasn't intended (ie, a card clearly out of place, or with an unfinished price tag or misplaced decimal) I don't report price discrepancies. If the seller doesn't realize what he had - I don't make it my mission to inform him unless I don't want the card. I've sold $20 cards for $1 because I didn't realize what I had, and I've bought $20 cards for $1 for the same reasons. To me that's because the dealer - the person who is making his money and possibly his living off of this - should know what he needs for his cards.
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Old 10-06-2015, 06:50 PM
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Can Leon tell who voted for "Feign Ignorance" i'd like to stay away from those dealers/sellers
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