I got screwed over on the BST today!

[cobblove]

"
To be clear, this was after you had paid and the deal was, in your mind, done?"

100% yes
Paid and waiting for my card to come.

He was supposed to mail it the day he got it 1 day mail to me. It was expected to come monday he told me. Ended up coming Thursday.(to him, not me)
After that he asked for more money. After being strung along I just wanted the card and the deal to be done. So I agreed to giving him the extra 100.00 as he said he needed money for X reasons.

I dont care to go into this anymore. Other than the fact I feel taken.

Originally Posted by cobblove

"
To be clear, this was after you had paid and the deal was, in your mind, done?"

100% yes
Paid and waiting for my card to come.

He was supposed to mail it the day he got it 1 day mail to me. It was expected to come monday he told me. Ended up coming Thursday.(to him, not me)
After that he asked for more money. After being strung along I just wanted the card and the deal to be done. So I agreed to giving him the extra 100.00 as he said he needed money for X reasons.

I dont care to go into this anymore. Other than the fact I feel taken.

So you don't recall me asking if you would allow me to refund you so that you could simply re-send the money via Paypal FF and you opting, that is making a choice on your own accord, to send $100 more to cover the Paypal fees and overnight shipping as I had asked for payment via Paypal FF?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

So you don't recall me asking if you would allow me to refund you so that you could simply re-send the money via Paypal FF and you opting, that is making a choice on your own accord, to send $100 more to cover the Paypal fees and overnight shipping as I had asked for payment via Paypal FF?

Why are you even using paypal friends and family for a BST transaction?

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Why are you even using paypal friends and family for a BST transaction?

Who doesn't?

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Who doesn't?

Oh, several folks.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Oh, several folks.

While I agree that several folks don't use FF...it's kinda lame to attack him at this angle. A shit ton of people use this method to pay, so if we're gonna go after Paypal FF users, let's set up a thread and throw stones that way. Next, let's ask how well he tips his waiters/waitresses...

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

While I agree that several folks don't use FF...it's kinda lame to attack him at this angle. A shit ton of people use this method to pay, so if we're gonna go after Paypal FF users, let's set up a thread and throw stones that way. Next, let's ask how well he tips his waiters/waitresses...

I hardly ever use the BST...very few items listed fit my collecting niche, I was just curious why people would use FF Paypal. Seems like an easy way to invite the IRS into your affairs when you're moving thousands of dollars with FF on a consistent basis.

[cobblove]

We agreed on a non Paypal FF.
I paid the difference.
We agreed for 2675.00 VIA PM!! ON HERE.
I paid the fees extra added to the 2675.00.
I dont trust you at this point. And the card in question is still being authenticated.
Your character at this point is making me happy I did not use FF Paypal.


"So you don't recall me asking if you would allow me to refund you so that you could simply re-send the money via Paypal FF and you opting, that is making a choice on your own accord, to send $100 more to cover the Paypal fees and overnight shipping as I had asked for payment via Paypal FF?""

Aslo I sent 2850.00.. We made a deal for 2675.00 I paid the fees for 2675.00 making it 2750......
YOu then got the card 4 days later after I called you every day , not one missed. And then you asked for another 100.00
I hope the card comes back clean from PSA. as this is making me question the fact it should like you said it would.
Please stop PMing me Dan and just make it public.

Originally Posted by cobblove

We agreed on a non Paypal FF.
I paid the difference.
We agreed for 2675.00 VIA PM!! ON HERE.
I paid the fees extra added to the 2675.00.
I dont trust you at this point. And the card in question is still being authenticated.
Your character at this point is making me happy I did not use FF Paypal.


"So you don't recall me asking if you would allow me to refund you so that you could simply re-send the money via Paypal FF and you opting, that is making a choice on your own accord, to send $100 more to cover the Paypal fees and overnight shipping as I had asked for payment via Paypal FF?""

Aslo I sent 2850.00.. We made a deal for 2675.00 I paid the fees for 2675.00 making it 2750......
YOu then got the card 4 days later after I called you every day , not one missed. And then you asked for another 100.00
I hope the card comes back clean from PSA. as this is making me question the fact it should like you said it would.
Please stop PMing me Dan and just make it public.

Did I not admit in discussions with you that I should not have listed the card in BST until it was in-hand and that I was shocked it sold as quickly as it did (within an hour of posting)? Did I not offer to refund your money until the card arrived on at least two occasions, answer every phone call you made to me, and update you on the tracking status daily? Did I not overnight the card to you the day it arrived and send you tracking information? Did you not have the card in-hand within five days of sending payment? Do you have any legitimate concerns about the card's authenticity? I have not heard of any prior to this evening when you stated publicly, "I love the card", but do you have any real concerns?

Yes, I did receive cash offers for the card exceeding the sale price even after the card was identified as sold in BST, and yes I did ask if you would consider re-sending the funds via paypal FF at which time you offered to pay $100 to cover the paypal fees and pay for overnight shipping.

If you are/were so unhappy with the deal, which is news to me, then why don't we just agree right now publicly that I will pay you whatever it cost you to have it graded and you can ship it back to me (at my expense) for a full refund as soon as you get it back? In other words, we'll just call the whole thing off and you send it back to me regardless of the grading outcome. Work for you? I doubt anyone would want to purchase a M116 Blue Wagner from me, but hell, I'll happily keep it.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

Yes, I did receive cash offers for the card exceeding the sale price even after the card was identified as sold in BST,

You had board members make you an offer even after the card was marked as sold? They should be identified.

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

You had board members make you an offer even after the card was marked as sold? They should be identified.

Yes I did and they will be the first members I contact if Derek would like to return the card.

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

You had board members make you an offer even after the card was marked as sold? They should be identified.

+1

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

You had board members make you an offer even after the card was marked as sold? They should be identified.

I agree but in reality this problem is so bad you can't even post a eBay purchase on this site before you get it in hand because members here will PM the eBay seller trying to screw over the buyer so they can get that precious card.