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View Poll Results: Should SGC grade these?
yes 51 57.95%
no 32 36.36%
maybe......explain in thread 5 5.68%
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:31 AM
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The real tragedy of sports collectibles is when the frauds/forgeries get so good and so wide spread that the real thing ceases to exist.
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The real tragedy of sports collectibles is when the frauds/forgeries get so good and so wide spread that the real thing ceases to exist.
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And as an example of what I wouldn't do, or ask anyone to do, here is this card and another that had been in my collection for years. Board member and Sr. BVG grader Andy B. and myself sat for some time with loupes and more and couldn't be sure on the batting pose card. We just aren't 100% and I wouldn't holder or grade it. As a matter of fact I will be keeping it so that it doesn't later get sold as 100% real. I don't believe I had Andy look at the portrait one. Not much need to, imo, honestly. The paper and everything is correct on it.....semi-worn patina and all.

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No.

I think the issue comes when in their honesty they are basically admitting that they do not feel they can have a 100% success rate.

I wish to applaud the decision and thank them for not holdering something they cannot do with 100% reliablity.

(of course no TPG is 100% perfect, but that should be the goal.)
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On these cards specifically, doesn't black light cause the modern paper to fluoresce?
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On these cards specifically, doesn't black light cause the modern paper to fluoresce?
I know they won't "always" flouresce if not good. The portrait one doesn't flouresce and not sure where the other is right now. I don't think it did either.
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I voted yes; grow a pair.
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No.

I think the issue comes when in their honesty they are basically admitting that they do not feel they can have a 100% success rate.

I wish to applaud the decision and thank them for not holdering something they cannot do with 100% reliablity.

(of course no TPG is 100% perfect, but that should be the goal.)
+1 with all the screw ups they do now do we really need them grading stuff they admit they can't get right.
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