NYPL Peck & Snyder Red Stockings Card

[Bumpus Jones]

So shines a good deed in a weary world...

[shernan30]

Great article. Leon, thanks for everything you do for Net54 and the collecting community.

[Brian Van Horn]

Leon,

You did the right thing.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by shernan30

Great article. Leon, thanks for everything you do for Net54 and the collecting community.

+1!

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by shernan30

Great article. Leon, thanks for everything you do for Net54 and the collecting community.

Originally Posted by glchen

+1!

+2

[wonkaticket]

I commend Leon for the final choice he made.

However I don't want a rose colored view of history on this. Leon was aware of issues and tried to sell the card anyway. Then when caught every angle was tried by Leon. From name calling, playing dumb, thread locking, playing the victim, getting in peoples faces, PMs to the very people he was calling names, to offline political chats.

The actions of Leon regarding this card were far from that of a hobby player who claims to do more than 99% in terms of fighting fraud than the rest of us. It should have never taken hobby collectors like myself and others to bring this to the attention of this board. It was disappointing then and looking back it still is.

However in the end a treasure was returned to the institution where its original owner wanted it to remain. That's about the best one could hope for.

Cheers,

John

[Leon]

You really don't know how sick and tired I am of hearing this absolute made up absurdity of yours. The only angles are 100% your imagination taking over. There is no rosy colored anything. I never got in anyone's face either. That was more made up crap that I wasn't commenting on before. I had a conversation, it got heated on the other side and I walked away. There was no vulgarity, no puffing of chest on my side...none of that.
You are just plain wrong....nothing more and nothing less. The best one could hope for is you understanding the truth and reality. But it doesn't seem that will happen. Carry on, I am sure you can make some more stuff up.
ps...I should add I feel it was in very poor taste to go after me, for completely erroneous reasons, during the sale of my collection. You tried hard to hurt the sale. Very poor taste indeed.

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I commend Leon for the final choice he made.

However I don't want a rose colored view of history on this. Leon was aware of issues and tried to sell the card anyway. Then when caught every angle was tried by Leon. From name calling, playing dumb, thread locking, playing the victim, getting in peoples faces, PMs to the very people he was calling names, to offline political chats.

The actions of Leon regarding this card were far from that of a hobby player who claims to do more than 99% in terms of fighting fraud than the rest of us. It should have never taken hobby collectors like myself and others to bring this to the attention of this board. It was disappointing then and looking back it still is.

However in the end a treasure was returned to the institution where its original owner wanted it to remain. That's about the best one could hope for.

Cheers,

John

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I commend Leon for the final choice he made.

However I don't want a rose colored view of history on this. Leon was aware of issues and tried to sell the card anyway. Then when caught every angle was tried by Leon. From name calling, playing dumb, thread locking, playing the victim, getting in peoples faces, PMs to the very people he was calling names, to offline political chats.

The actions of Leon regarding this card were far from that of a hobby player who claims to do more than 99% in terms of fighting fraud than the rest of us. It should have never taken hobby collectors like myself and others to bring this to the attention of this board. It was disappointing then and looking back it still is.

However in the end a treasure was returned to the institution where its original owner wanted it to remain. That's about the best one could hope for.

Cheers,

John

GREAT POST!!! Glad I am not the only one who feels that way.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

GREAT POST!!! Glad I am not the only one who feels that way.

You and anyone that believes this is just wrong. Had I known there was a stamp I would have addressed it the same way I did when I found out. Within a few hours I had called the NYPL and authorities. So if ya'll think I knew for any time before that, and didn't address it., there is no way I can convince you. But it's not the truth. I knew of the stamp identification the same time the rest of the board did. Those are the facts. Believe what you want to.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by shernan30

Great article. Leon, thanks for everything you do for Net54 and the collecting community.

And another +1

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by Bumpus Jones

So shines a good deed in a weary world...

great quote from an even greater movie!

[edjs]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

great quote from an even greater movie!

That quote is from the Merchant of Venice, I believe. Willie Wonka was quoting it himself.

[ls7plus]

See, honor and integrity ARE alive and well!

Another big +1!

Larry

[Yoda]

Leon, I always thought you were a straight shooter before this mess you have endured. Now I know you are.

[wonkaticket]

Leon,

I never called you names, never filled your inbox with PMs. I have taken my position and stood by it thru the entire mess. Never once did it change.

Would you like me to share your rambling PMs to me? You know the ones in which you change your tune many times and take a slightly different approach privately with me. The golly gee Wonka take it easy I agree with you all while calling me names publicly?

I also like the one where you say you knew there were issues but you thought it would cost a few grand to figure out if it was stolen...so you didn't "really look into much more." Even though it took a few images from the internet and few minutes to figure it out. I guess I also made you discuss this on video as well showing you had good knowledge there were issues with this card.

You can continue to blame me and play the victim all you want. You made this mess you're sick of hearing about. There's no fantasy here. All this craziness is real...just you're on the wrong side of it. Again not my fault.

Devalue your auction...laughable. Your ego really is amazing. The irony is your actions and childish behavior which still continues did ultimately devalue your auction as myself and many others decided not to bid because of your attitude and shenanigans.

John

[j_cook]

Any way we can take a poll to ban wonkaticket from posting? He's posted his opinion on the matter dozens of times, not sure why he must continue to post it? I think he might have it saved so he can just copy/paste every so often.

Ja.y C.ook

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by edjs

That quote is from the Merchant of Venice, I believe. Willie Wonka was quoting it himself.

Interesting, the only quote I remember (and can actually recite) from the Merchant of Venice is the "quality of mercy" speech by Portia. I didn't realize that Wonka was quoting that piece. Thanks for the enlightenment.