Buying all #332 Tony Bartirome 1952 Topps cards + his Gold Canary + Griffey + Tiger

[ksabet]

Two things:

1. I really think this guy and Adrian are buddies

2. I know Leon won't but I would love to read the 5-paragraph post he was about to attach.

[RCMcKenzie]

What I took away from this thread is that 1952 Topps short prints have a population of around 1000 each. I had no idea they were that scarce. i may need to put together a low-grade 52 Topps set now. What else am I doing?

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Two things:

1. I really think this guy and Adrian are buddies

2. I know Leon won't but I would love to read the 5-paragraph post he was about to attach.

1. My thinking exactly.

2. Same here. This thread has been more entertaining than the Sunday Night Football game that just ended.

[Bpm0014]

I wonder where he got the money to buy tens of thousands of dollars worth of baseball cards??

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

I wonder where he got the money to buy tens of thousands of dollars worth of baseball cards??

Probably from a previous scam!

[Bruinsfan94]

Anyone have any ideas what kind of angle this could have been? Doesn't make any sense to me. From all his past behavior and internet craziness I guess it has to be bad, but what kind profit could be made from buying a common at such premiums?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94

Anyone have any ideas what kind of angle this could have been? Doesn't make any sense to me. From all his past behavior and internet craziness I guess it has to be bad, but what kind profit could be made from buying a common at such premiums?

like you said its internet craziness......and he just started.....how many people you know started an expensive set only to quit before halfway.....I been saying all along need to wait a year or so of constant buying...one month of buying that we know of..(he can say what he wants in the past before then but we have no proof of that and this guy screams proof)

he never would of even halfway completed the task.... ONE psa 8 common? .a long way to go.....he said he would wait for the set breaks.....wake me up in 10 years..

[Bruinsfan94]

"like you said its internet craziness......and he just started.....how many people you know started an expensive set only to quit before halfway.....I been saying all along need to wait a year or so of constant buying...one month of buying that we know of..(he can say what he wants in the past before then but we have no proof of that and this guy screams proof)

he never would of even halfway completed the task.... ONE psa 8 common? .a long way to go.....he said he would wait for the set breaks.....wake me up in 10 years."

I completely agree. Just wondering, in his mind, how this was going to end up with profit or good. Everything he said was a lie. It would take years for him to really effect the market since there are tons in collections around the country. Granted, according the articles posted, he did get in big trouble, he must have been fairly smart as a teenager to do something like that. If only he used that knowledge for some good...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Two things:

1. I really think this guy and Adrian are buddies

2. I know Leon won't but I would love to read the 5-paragraph post he was about to attach.

Never underestimate the powers of persuasion. Here is his last email to me.

Here ya go....





I'm really busy right now, but your story will be compiled and published on the front page & when it does I will activate the multiple stealth accounts I have on net54 to spam the hell out of your boards to spread the word about the exclusive story of Leon Luckey. Don't think I have forgotten or given up. A month may go by, but when I have a weekend to finalize the finishing touches on the organization of the article, it will go live, & you will never get that removed.

Do me a favor and post this reply to my thread in the meantime, as I was unable to post it when you banned me during the writing of this reply:

Originally Posted by the 'stache

This thread is surreal, but also fascinating. I feel bubbles in my head, like I've had too much champagne.

I'm curious as to why you want the 10 2011 Topps Lineage Gold Canary cards of his? Should you acquire all of them, how do you determine which family members get these?

Why if you're also hoarding the '53 cards do you only want PSA 7 +? That seems, to me anyway, to reinforce the notion that you are hoarding these cards for future profit. The '52 Topps cards are from the first full set Topps ever did, and are from the high series. They are innately valuable, condition not withstanding. But the '53s don't have the same demand. However, collectors pursing the 1953 Topps registry will want high grade examples of the card. Can you comment on that?

I just know that I want all 10 of the 2011 Topps Lineage Gold Canary since they are rare & limited & only 10 in existence. The fact Topps would choose to re-honor my family member with a reissue, in all it's gold diamond features & glory, is extra special. I do realize part of Tony's inclusion in the Gold Canary set is because he is still alive, & could sign the cards for Topps.

I have never even looked at a PSA registry, or even heard that word "registry" before a month ago. I don't know what 1953 Topps registry even means actually. I just don't wish to be like Mr Wallach collector buying $1 cards every day. I don't want to buy $1-$10 1953 Topps Bartirome's. I just want to have the rarest ones from 1953 - so that is PSA 7 and up. I arbitrarily chose that number to go with. I wouldn't know what to do with stacks of $1-$10 cards.

And yes, I want ALL 1952 Topps #332 because "they are innately valuable, condition not withstanding." To me they are prized possessions, & part of an amazing, historical story.

The comment that said I could liquidate 1953 Topps Bartirome easier then 1952 Topps Bartirome, how do you figure? There are a 100 listings for 1953 Topps Bartirome. If I bought them all up at the listed prices, & wanted to liquidate, even if I list them all for half the prices, 90% of the 100 listings would just sit there. I was under the assumption barely anyone is buying a 1953 Topps Bartirome because there are far less set collectors. It has no story, no legend, no allure. There are 0 listings for 1952 Topps Bartirome. Even before I jumped into the market, there would only be 1-2 at any given time. Please elaborate why you think I could liquidate 1953 Topps Bartirome easier then 1952 Topps Bartirome.....

Due to the advice of some PM's, I am going underground now except to post an updated picture of all the cards before the end of the year on this thread. Perhaps I will ignore the #332 going on HA next month. I will not pay $1,500 again. Perhaps there was manipulation in after hours bidding or bidders trying to win it to then sell it to me. The winner of this:

http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4azjlobu.jpg

is willing to sell it to me for $300, but he has also been significantly bidding me up for the past handful of #332 auctions because he has been needing a Bartirome. I simply forgot to bid that evening, & lost out on it. Now, I would normally pay the $300 and get it, but this group conversation has convinced me to stop encouraging the higher prices. If I buy it, he will go back to bidding against me on all future ones until I slip up & he wins again. If I don't buy it, he is done & out of the market & I don't have to deal with him indefinitely. I will stop this madness for a few listings, & disappear, so hopefully people stop risking their high bids thinking I will buy from them. I can pass on a #332 & buy it the next time it hits the market.

Thanks guys! I'll reply to this thread with a few pics of.
the collection before the end of the year!


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[autograf]

Well......get ready for multiple stealth account activation........I still can't believe this douchecanoe can buy these 1952T's and doesn't have enough to pay for his $1800 rent/month. Definitely a candidate for Mensa...........

[Bruinsfan94]

At this point, I'm just confused. If you are going to lie, why pick a player who is still alive and then go tell everyone on a board that has 1000's of people who have been around baseball their whole life. Not that hard to find someone who could figure that out. I honestly think this guy just likes to be shady for the sake of being shady.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by autograf

Well......get ready for multiple stealth account activation........I still can't believe this douchecanoe can buy these 1952T's and doesn't have enough to pay for his $1800 rent/month. Definitely a candidate for Mensa...........

I appreciate the fact that he is going to ruin me but first could I do him a favor? I figured what the heck, why not?

[7nohitter]

Are 'stealth accounts' a persistent problem on this board?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Are 'stealth accounts' a persistent problem on this board?

They are stealth so I don't know.... LMAO....not as far as I can tell but like I always say, I am sure some roaches crawl in under the door. And as long as they stay in the dark they won't get stomped on. I can't imagine being on a forum where I am not allowed or wanted. There has to be better things to do with my time. But I guess as evidenced by this thread one can never tell.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Are 'stealth accounts' a persistent problem on this board?

Yes, and if you create one and Leon finds out you will be put on double secret probation. There is a little-known codicil in the N54 Constitution that gives the moderator unlimited power to preserve order in times of message board emergencies.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Yes, and if you create one and Leon finds out you will be put on double secret probation. There is a little-known codicil in the N54 Constitution that gives the moderator unlimited power to preserve order in times of message board emergencies.

I want to make an amusing statement regarding the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor but can't quite figure out a way to fit it in.

So there.

Tom C

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Leon

I'm really busy right now, but your story will be compiled and published on the front page & when it does I will activate the multiple stealth accounts I have on net54 to spam the hell out of your boards to spread the word about the exclusive story of Leon Luckey. Don't think I have forgotten or given up. A month may go by, but when I have a weekend to finalize the finishing touches on the organization of the article, it will go live, & you will never get that removed.

Do me a favor and post this reply to my thread in the meantime, as I was unable to post it when you banned me during the writing of this.

Sooooooooo... he has the ability to have multiple stealth accounts and will be able to post something on the front page that you won't be able to remove, but is "unable to post" because he was banned?

One world class hacker there.