When to know the hobby is DIEing!

[begsu1013]

i am guessing the 52 8 we are talking about is a low series common, correct?

from my perspective, i've noticed that psa player sets are becoming more popular than year sets.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

i am guessing the 52 8 we are talking about is a low series common, correct?

from my perspective, i've noticed that psa player sets are becoming more popular than year sets.

no ANY PSA 8 1952 topps........you cant get any 1952 topps psa 8 right now under $100......

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

no ANY PSA 8 1952 topps........you cant get any 1952 topps psa 8 right now under $100......

ok, so what's the point here then?

[Laxcat]

I didn't lose my temper. Not my fault if you can't face the truth. Remind me again when you post anything positive? All you do is bellyache about how the hobby is DYING. Ever think you are a part of the problem?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Laxcat

I didn't lose my temper. Not my fault if you can't face the truth. Remind me again when you post anything positive? All you do is bellyache about how the hobby is DYING. Ever think you are a part of the problem?

All the time i post positive things, like the prettiest card i have seen being the ty cobb bat off shoulder...come to think of it...looks like you are the one that doesn't say anything positive...though you are sooo witty.....also admitted to losing your temper...but not this time ..denial is not just a river in Egypt...i never initiated an attack on you on any thread...heck you even attacked me on a thread i hadn't even posted anything on.....for which you did admit you lost your temper.

and as you say not my fault if you cant face the truth...if the hobby is DIEing...perhaps it could be perhaps not...but i can see you you wont face the truth if it is.........i just raised a question about any particular cards too look for...no harm in that....

there was an OP that said whats my point about 1952 Topps PSA 8s ever going for under 100$....my point was that would be an indicator of a market fall....another poster contributed to the thread and said he would look at whether the iconic cards like the 1952 topps, 1933 ruth etc started to fall on the same thread....i have not seen you contribute anything on this thread its just a thread man..relax, don't be angry..

[Laxcat]

Let me address something. Off my medication? So, if I disagree with your sour look on the hobby I must be crazy? For your information I have recently been taken off a few meds that I needed for depression and anxiety. I truly hope you never have had to or will experience what put me on my meds. I think it QUITE unnerving that you look at mental health as something to be throwing out at as a jab at someone.

So you have put the ball in my court. All I have to do is stand here and dribble and wait for your clock to run out.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Laxcat

Let me address something. Off my medication? So, if I disagree with your sour look on the hobby I must be crazy? For your information I have recently been taken off a few meds that I needed for depression and anxiety. I truly hope you never have had to or will experience what put me on my meds. I think it QUITE unnerving that you look at mental health as something to be throwing out at as a jab at someone.

So you have put the ball in my court. All I have to do is stand here and dribble and wait for your clock to run out.

Again we disagree on the purposes of my posts...but that's fine you are entitled to that.

but yeah it does seem that your meds may of been a problem...actions are still actions no matter the reason to whoever in the recipient of the actions....but obviously i hope you are taking a step forward and everything works out...you will not see me initiate any direct attack on you ..i also keep the subject matter about cards or sometimes even jokes (see my chris rock lamar odom thread comment) ..you really cant say i am all negative...anyway good luck in your future collecting

[tschock]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

there was an OP that said whats my point about 1952 Topps PSA 8s ever going for under 100$....my point was that would be an indicator of a market fall

Of course it would, because the opposite of rise (and not staying the same) is fall. But the only thing that you can truly know from this is that PSA 8s for 1952 Topps have gone under $100. But.... Fall does not equate to Dying (spelled DYing).

Fall (could just as well) = Market correction, meaning that...

A ) Overpriced cards might not be overpriced anymore, or
B ) Collectors are "over" the idea that TPGs mean anything, or
C ) Some relative of Sy Berger has found 1000s of pristine 1952 Topps hi numbers that Sy gave to her many years ago but were stored in a mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wangnalls porch, or
D ) A myriad of other reasons.

I'm not saying that a fall as you noted does NOT indicate dying, just that a fall does not PROVE dying, which should be the point of the term "KNOW" in the title of the thread "When to know the hobby is DIEing!"

One could just as easily and esoterically argue that anything that is born or comes into being (such as a collector's market) begins to die the moment of inception. Just picking the nits that need to be picked.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by tschock

Of course it would, because the opposite of rise (and not staying the same) is fall. But the only thing that you can truly know from this is that PSA 8s for 1952 Topps have gone under $100. But.... Fall does not equate to Dying (spelled DYing).

Fall (could just as well) = Market correction, meaning that...

A ) Overpriced cards might not be overpriced anymore, or
B ) Collectors are "over" the idea that TPGs mean anything, or
C ) Some relative of Sy Berger has found 1000s of pristine 1952 Topps hi numbers that Sy gave to her many years ago but were stored in a mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wangnalls porch, or
D ) A myriad of other reasons.

I'm not saying that a fall as you noted does NOT indicate dying, just that a fall does not PROVE dying, which should be the point of the term "KNOW" in the title of the thread "When to know the hobby is DIEing!"

One could just as easily and esoterically argue that anything that is born or comes into being (such as a collector's market) begins to die the moment of inception. Just picking the nits that need to be picked.

your opinion was well thought out...I do see the error of some of my generalities...I guess I used the term Dieing, (spell incorrectly for dramatic impact) as shock factor ..... I respect your points there and I agree with several of them