When to know the hobby is DIEing!

[Billwinkle]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

There are canaries in the coalmines as it were to show me when prices are really falling

one example would be to see any 1952 Topps PSA 8 card sell for less than $100.00 on ebay auction.....if you see that..post it

any other types of things?

I guess you would need to define what the "hobby" is first of all. There are definitely two camps on this matter. The monetary camp and the nostalgia camp.

If you are talking about the value or perceived value of your collection you would be sitting around the fire at the monetary camp. In my humble opinion this camp worries far to much about money to really enjoy the "hobby". I believe that the monetary camp suffers from a form of malaise that can only be cured when you "score or make a monetary killing" That in itself leads me to believe the "hobby" in general is sick but not dead. I can go on to explain my beliefs for several reasons. I will go into that later if anyone would like to debate that

Now over on nostalgia camp the s'mores are being passed around, the fire is crackling and the beers are sliding down just fine. As the population in general ages (yep I'm an old guy) the hobby is thriving. We baby boomers are getting back into the hobby because we all would like to have a piece of our childhood, we enjoy speaking about little known players that we watched a s a kid, or we have had a lifelong interest in whatever sport floats your boat (hockey then baseball for me). We also have some spare pocket change and the wisdom to spend it on items that we like within reason. We buy sell or trade with a different goal in mind. For me it is to complete sets I started as a kid, to rekindle the memories of Tim Horton and the powerful player he was, to remember Bobby Orr as one of the greatest. On the baseball side I enjoy listening to my brother talk about the greats he grew up watching or listening to, Bob Feller Willie Mays, Enos Slaughter, Berra and the Mick, Jackie Robinson as well as all the lesser known players. He sat around the radio and listen to anything baseball for decades, we were poor and didn't have a tv until the late 60's. Baseball for me was all about the the Pirates and the start of the Jays who I now follow intently. Yep I am a Canadian.

So in closing it depends on which camp you are going to this summer or winter. As we all know not all camps are the same!!!!!

[PolarBear]

This thread killed the hobby.

[ALR-bishop]

Good post Bill....at least for an old guy

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Billwinkle

I guess you would need to define what the "hobby" is first of all. There are definitely two camps on this matter. The monetary camp and the nostalgia camp.

If you are talking about the value or perceived value of your collection you would be sitting around the fire at the monetary camp. In my humble opinion this camp worries far to much about money to really enjoy the "hobby". I believe that the monetary camp suffers from a form of malaise that can only be cured when you "score or make a monetary killing" That in itself leads me to believe the "hobby" in general is sick but not dead. I can go on to explain my beliefs for several reasons. I will go into that later if anyone would like to debate that

Now over on nostalgia camp the s'mores are being passed around, the fire is crackling and the beers are sliding down just fine. As the population in general ages (yep I'm an old guy) the hobby is thriving. We baby boomers are getting back into the hobby because we all would like to have a piece of our childhood, we enjoy speaking about little known players that we watched a s a kid, or we have had a lifelong interest in whatever sport floats your boat (hockey then baseball for me). We also have some spare pocket change and the wisdom to spend it on items that we like within reason. We buy sell or trade with a different goal in mind. For me it is to complete sets I started as a kid, to rekindle the memories of Tim Horton and the powerful player he was, to remember Bobby Orr as one of the greatest. On the baseball side I enjoy listening to my brother talk about the greats he grew up watching or listening to, Bob Feller Willie Mays, Enos Slaughter, Berra and the Mick, Jackie Robinson as well as all the lesser known players. He sat around the radio and listen to anything baseball for decades, we were poor and didn't have a tv until the late 60's. Baseball for me was all about the the Pirates and the start of the Jays who I now follow intently. Yep I am a Canadian.

So in closing it depends on which camp you are going to this summer or winter. As we all know not all camps are the same!!!!!

that was another well thought out post....all I can say is you being Canadian..is there any truth that tim hortons' could of been called wayne gretskys but he passed on the franchise? I haven't googled it

[Billwinkle]

No truth to that rumour (canadian spelling). Tim Horton started his first doughnut shop before Gretzky was even born I believe. Gretzky did have one or two restaurants called Gretzkys as well. I know Getzky's was in Toronto. Wayne was around when Tim's wife sold the chain of restaurants but they were sold to Tims' business partner. Gretzky does have a sports complex and a parkway named after him in his home town of Brantford.

[begsu1013]

hortons was the inspiration behind "stan mikita's donut shop" in wayne's world.

worth a google.

[RTK]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

hortons was the inspiration behind "stan mikita's donut shop" in wayne's world.

worth a google.

[begsu1013]

yep.

michael myers is from canada and a huge maple leafs fan.
wayne campbell was from chicago and a huge black hawks fan.

art imitating life.

excellent!

[ls7plus]

Re the "hobby is dying" part: ask yourselves this__ if prices started to rapidly fall on some of the holy grails, like the T206 Wagner, M101 and 1914 Baltimore News Ruth rookies, high-grade '52 Topps Mantles, etc, how many of us would line up to catch them if and when they got within our price range? Virtually all of us, I would think, which is the answer to the question itself: demand for the real classics, the material collectors thrive on, is like a large pyramid, with ledges. If the top or even several layers slough off, there's too much below it to keep it all from going, and the net result is that none of it would fall very far. We're here to stay now, boy, just as long as baseball and its history is popular. Anyone who thinks the hobby is dying should have been at the National this past July--BIG, BIG AGAIN, JUST LIKE IT WAS IN '92 in Atlanta (compared to small, like Cleveland, in 2009)! TONS OF YOUTHFUL ENERGY, BURSTING AT THE SEAMS WITH BARELY CONTAINED INTEREST IN PURSUING AND OBTAINING WHAT IT WANTED!

Plus, Leon hosted a helluva Net54 dinner on Friday. I highly recommend it for all for next year!

We're all in this together, like family. No need for name-calling between brothers who simply sometimes disagree.

May we all find joy in our collecting endeavors,

Larry

[ALR-bishop]

Bill--Do people park on parkways in Canada or do they drive on parkways and park on driveways like here

[begsu1013]

why does hawaii have interstates? waffle houses have locks?

"how exactly is a rainbow made? how exactly does the sun set?
how exactly does the posi-trac rear end on a plymouth work!? it just does!"