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Old 11-05-2015, 05:36 PM
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The timing of the two bids, and retractions, is odd.

Member Id: -***o( 1271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Retracted: US $62,000.00
Bid: Nov-04-15 21:53:00 PST
Retracted: Nov-04-15 21:54:20 PST
Member Id: -***o( 1271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Retracted: US $60,349.00
Bid: Nov-04-15 21:54:39 PST
Retracted: Nov-05-15 12:32:57 PST
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:08 PM
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My guess is PWCC cancels all bids from that guy. And then eBay cancels the account.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:44 PM
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A thread on CU mentions bidder 1271 as well. I was able to click on the link earlier and besides having so many bids on the Mantle, the bidder had a relatively high number (can't recall how many) of relatively recent bid retractions as well.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:14 PM
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The timing of the two bids, and retractions, is odd.

Member Id: -***o( 1271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Retracted: US $62,000.00
Bid: Nov-04-15 21:53:00 PST
Retracted: Nov-04-15 21:54:20 PST
Member Id: -***o( 1271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Retracted: US $60,349.00
Bid: Nov-04-15 21:54:39 PST
Retracted: Nov-05-15 12:32:57 PST
not so good....

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2047675.l2565



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Old 11-05-2015, 09:56 PM
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Well we've seen it b4...are we seeing it again? Will the mantle and plank sell legitimitely???
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:04 PM
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1271 is the high bidder on the Mantle.

Maybe he checked his wallet and realized he only had $470,000 and just couldn't afford the additional 60k for the Plank.
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Well we've seen it b4...are we seeing it again? Will the mantle and plank sell legitimitely???
This Plank sold for 75k in 2010, so if it does sell it will probably result in a big loss. Does anyone feel this card in overgraded?
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:21 AM
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He is the high bidder again, what the heck is going on?
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:46 AM
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He checked under the couch cushions and found the 60k he needed for the Plank.
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This Plank sold for 75k in 2010, so if it does sell it will probably result in a big loss. Does anyone feel this card in overgraded?
I think the card is graded at about the right grade. Back is a little questionable but the front is pretty damn nice.
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Plank ended at $71,732.


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Plank ended at $71,732.


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That seems like a strong price. Good for all involved.
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Old 11-09-2015, 03:13 PM
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Wanted to quickly chime in on this auction as there was some discussion over a single bidder with a feedback score of 1271.

The bidder in question has eBay ID: d-drodeo

This member is an aggressive participant in the hobby and bids regularly with us, as well as most catalog auction houses.

I want to first be clear that bid retractions are something we absolutely despise and are working very hard with eBay to bring about some changes (hoping to announce some progress on this in the coming weeks).

Some further color on this auction is that after the retractions were issued, I was informed by eBay and they had actually retracted the second bid themselves in response to a prior retraction which was issued by d-drodeo (they also manually removed a bid on a 1954 Banks PSA 8). We have empowered eBay to monitor our auctions and take action if/when impropriety occurs and in this case they acted in response to this users initial retraction which was in violation of policy. eBay us testing some news tools currently and those tools are not yet fully vetted; case in point, it still appears that the retractions occurred at the hand of d-drodeo when they should say 'administrative cancellation' or something similar.

Once the dust settled we reached out to d-drodeo and explained the impropriety of having retracted the first bid. They understood our concern and then agreed to reinstate the first retracted bid at $62,000. They apologized for their actions and said what many people have said before... "I didn't realize it was against the rules".

This is a great example of a system which is flawed. eBay has rules on bid retractions but they don't enforce them and the only way we can educate users on our personal company policies is after that first retraction has been placed. eBay needs to enforce their own rules and we are working with them to accomplish this.

We can also say with confidence that none of the other 9 retractions on d-drodeo's account have been placed with PWCC Auctions, otherwise this matter would have been addressed at an earlier time.

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Thank you for reaching out to confirm the bids were validated.
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We can also say with confidence that none of the other 9 retractions on d-drodeo's account have been placed with PWCC Auctions, otherwise this matter would have been addressed at an earlier time.

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Brent, I don't think you checked carefully enough before saying with confidence that none of his prior retractions were with you, it took me all of five minutes to find this looking through your high dollar auctions. Now maybe there is a good explanation for the retraction and it's no big deal but nonetheless your statement above appears to be inaccurate.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2047675.l2565

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Bidder Action Date of Bid and Retraction
Member Id: -***o ( 1271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Retracted: US $16,000.00
Bid: Oct-14-15 18:29:12 PDT
Retracted: Oct-14-15 18:31:04 PDT

Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 11-09-2015 at 09:56 PM. Reason: In fairness Brent already had mentioned the Banks retraction, my mistake.
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