OT: Who would you put on your sports Mt. Rushmore. This is harder than it sounds...

[Peter_Spaeth]

What don't you understand? By his third season, very early in his career, he had 67 receptions and a very respectable 10 yard average, similar to the rest of his career. ON MIAMI. Sorry the facts don't fit your narrative.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What don't you understand? By his third season, very early in his career, he had 67 receptions and a very respectable 10 yard average, similar to the rest of his career. Sorry the facts don't fit your narrative.

You still don't get it. Yep, you keep researching Welker and editing your posts after the fact when you look up more stats and numbers because you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Just quit replying so the thread can continue.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

You still don't get it. Yep, you keep researching Welker and editing your posts after the fact when you look up more stats and numbers because you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Just quit replying so the thread can continue.


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You're very convincing. I am impressed.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

You still don't get it. Yep, you keep researching Welker and editing your posts after the fact when you look up more stats and numbers because you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Just quit replying so the thread can continue.


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You are the idiot who said Welker was a flop everywhere before Brady. I showed you that by his third season he had very respectable numbers. 67 catches is not a "flop" by anyone's standards. Which is surely why NE was interested in him. Respond on the merits.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You are the idiot who said Welker was a flop everywhere before Brady. I showed you that by his third season he had very respectable numbers. 67 catches is not a "flop" by anyone's standards. Which is surely why NE was interested in him. Respond on the merits.

Flop may have been harsh, I'll admit that. But he was a special teamer struggling to stay on the roster and almost got cut (again) before his magical 2006 season.

Let me ask you this, do you think Welker would have become a HOF player in Miami? No. Most likely a far cry from it. Brady made him a HOF'er.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Brent, we're certainly on the same page that playing on a great team with a great QB will help any receiver. But of course it can work the other way too, a great receiver can improve any QB. So it's really hard to say in almost any case who made who better. I suspect Welker was on his way to being very very good, but beyond that it's hard to know.

[mrvster]

we can all say these 3 - RUTH, GRETZKY, JORDAN....


the tough one is # 4???????

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Brent, we're certainly on the same page that playing on a great team with a great QB will help any receiver. But of course it can work the other way too, a great receiver can improve any QB. So it's really hard to say in almost any case who made who better. I suspect Welker was on his way to being very very good, but beyond that it's hard to know.

Hard to argue with that my friend, well said. Heck, Welker could have killed it in Miami for all we know. I would say it's more difficult to have a great receiver make a decent qb great. Didn't work with Moss is Oakland, but then again he didn't seem to care nor try lol.

Some players are made from the systems they are put in, and if you remove them from that, they may not succeed.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Hard to argue with that my friend, well said. Heck, Welker could have killed it in Miami for all we know. I would say it's more difficult to have a great receiver make a decent qb great. Didn't work with Moss is Oakland, but then again he didn't seem to care nor try lol.

Some players are made from the systems they are put in, and if you remove them from that, they may not succeed.


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Moss did make Cassell look pretty good for a season though.