Mantle Avalanche

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Is the '52 a RC?

According to SGC it is, for some reason.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

According to SGC it is, for some reason.

I've always thought the 52T rookie designation was weird. The 51 Bowman is a 10x better looking card anyway.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I've always thought the 52T rookie designation was weird. The 51 Bowman is a 10x better looking card anyway.

Topps is the biggest and most prolific card company ever. The '52 Topps Mantle is iconic and his FTC (First Topps Card). These analogies remind me of the T206 Wags. Most non collectors think it's his rarest card. It's nowhere close but it is his most known and iconic hence the price. Same as the '52 Mick.

Personally I like his '51 Bowman as much as the '52 Topps.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Leon

Topps is the biggest and most prolific card company ever. The '52 Topps Mantle is iconic and his FTC (First Topps Card). These analogies remind me of the T206 Wags. Most non collectors think it's his rarest card. It's nowhere close but it is his most known and iconic hence the price. Same as the '52 Mick.

Personally I like his '51 Bowman as much as the '52 Topps.

I get the whole Topps mystique, it's just weird a lot of people think the 52T is Mantle's rookie. Interestingly though, that doesn't seem to be the case with Mays. I think you're on to something with an FTC designation though. That makes the most sense to me.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I get the whole Topps mystique, it's just weird a lot of people think the 52T is Mantle's rookie. Interestingly though, that doesn't seem to be the case with Mays. I think you're on to something with an FTC designation though. That makes the most sense to me.

in theory every 1952 Topps cards is the FTC.....yeah i know about those topps 51s..but you know what im talking about

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

in theory every 1952 Topps cards is the FTC.....yeah i know about those topps 51s..but you know what im talking about

You made my point. Mantle is the most valuable post war player. Put that with the biggest and by far most prolific card mfg'er and you have a perfect storm. Not a rare card but actually scarce due to it's desirability (this could be debated).

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Leon

You made my point. Mantle is the most valuable post war player. Put that with the biggest and by far most prolific card mfg'er and you have a perfect storm. Not a rare card but actually scarce do to it's desirability (this could be debated).

well also basically when it was real close to a rookie year you would see the FTC designation...also the legend of the 1952 Topps Mantle grows...IN Fact even the past few weeks may of added to the legend...there may be some 30 year olds following these sales and 20 years from now they are bidding 500k because of what they are experiencing now...some people buy fancy cars for their definition of 'success' some buy artwork or cards..to each their own....I just don't see those same 30 year olds bidding more than the current SMR is for 1952 Topps commons 30 years from now.....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I've always thought the 52T rookie designation was weird. The 51 Bowman is a 10x better looking card anyway.

It's not just weird, it's flat out wrong. A second year card is not a rookie. But SGC labels it a rookie.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I've always thought the 52T rookie designation was weird. The 51 Bowman is a 10x better looking card anyway.

Personally I like Mantle's '52B more than the '52T as well, maybe its only cuz I can afford it

[Delray Vintage]

I am surprised but can't say shocked that a PSA 6 is at 82,000 at Goodwin auction already. I know it is a beautiful card but has the market gone crazy? Has Mickey become the darling of every Wall Street investor? Markets make the price but can anyone say bubble.

[Sophiedog]

There are 3 1952 Mantle PSA 10's out there. Wonder what one of them would bring. 3 Million?

[Delray Vintage]

If an 8 is going for 500,000 then a 9 would be 1.5 million, and a ten probably 3 mil or more. Some hedge fund manager yankee fan would know that a 10 is so rare that they may never get another chance. So my guess is it could top 3 million, possibly 5 million.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Delray Vintage

If an 8 is going for 500,000 then a 9 would be 1.5 million, and a ten probably 3 mil or more. Some hedge fund manager yankee fan would know that a 10 is so rare that they may never get another chance. So my guess is it could top 3 million, possibly 5 million.

I would not be surprised to see it break the trimmed Wagner record if auctioned today. Like you said it could be years or decades before another came up. 5 mil doesn't sound impossible.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Delray Vintage

If an 8 is going for 500,000 then a 9 would be 1.5 million, and a ten probably 3 mil or more. Some hedge fund manager yankee fan would know that a 10 is so rare that they may never get another chance. So my guess is it could top 3 million, possibly 5 million.

All depends on how badly the second hedge fund manager yankee fan wants it.

[Delray Vintage]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

All depends on how badly the second hedge fund manager yankee fan wants it.

No doubt a mantle PSA 10 would top the PSA 8 wagner in price. The hype on a 10 at auction would be extraordinary. The guys making a billion a year on Wall Street would jump at it. Price, sky is the limit but would set the record for any card ever sold.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

According to SGC it is, for some reason.

Well that settles it.