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Just goes to show who he is, David. He was relentless and often brutal even to his teammates when he played. Many thought he had to be like that to focus on the game, when really, he was and is just a mean man. Age apparently hasn't mellowed him much. The one time I got his autograph, at a show around 1988 in SF, he was cordial but not engaging and accommodated my request to use the red sharpie I brought for the signature. That card [1968 Topps] got burgled, unfortunately, around 25 years ago. A few years ago I got this vintage signed team issue that had been used as a PC back in 1969:
 Derek, that pre-rookie is fantastic.
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Here he is at the signing a couple of weeks ago. I asked him how he was and he said "if I was any better, I would scare myself".
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I mean Bob
So far with the anecdotes it sounds like Bob was at his surliest between the late 80's and late 90's. Perhaps he just had a rough decade.
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11-10-2015, 03:37 PM
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His first book was titled "From Ghetto to Glory"
Having lived in Omaha for the past 11 years, I've often wondered where the ghetto here in town was at that time. From everyone I've spoken to who knew him in high school, at Creighton, etc., he came from a working class family in mid-town. Not exactly what you would call ghetto by any stretch of the imagination.
Guessing the title "From Middle-Class to Upper Crust" wouldn't sell as many books.
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11-10-2015, 03:46 PM
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I got his autograph at a Gloria Rothstein show in the mid 90s. I still have a picture of me standing in front of his table and him looking down at the floor. I was maybe 10 and never liked the guy after that.
But Seaver was there too and he even let me behind the table. To this day I still collect Seaver.
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11-10-2015, 05:56 PM
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get over it
Have to say I get a little weary of the inevitable "he was mean to me" anecdotes that appear in threads like this one, in reference to ALMOST any and every player. Yeah, a few players are saints who are nice to everybody. And probably only a few are really incapable of being nice to anyone. Overall, athletes are no more or less "nice" than any other group of people. Why should we expect them to be?
But unlike most of us, athletes have to constantly encounter strangers who feel that they know them and who expect to be treated like instant friends. I know that as problems go, this is a far cry from being ill or homeless, but I think (if I were a celebrity) I would find it an unbearable drain on my time and energy, especially as I got older. You could say, well then former players who feel that way all the time should avoid doing signing shows, and that's reasonable. Probably a lot of the least sociable ones do (or don't get asked). My guess is that a lot of the ones in between, especially the older guys who played before the huge salaries and could use the money, convince themselves that it won't be so bad and try to have fun at the shows they do. But on a bad day something gets under their skin (like a pushy or obnoxious fan) and things go downhill from there. That is why with most of them (like Gibson, Mays, Mantle, Seaver, etc etc) you will get person A saying "he was mean to me" and person B saying "he was nice to me." A lot depends on the demeanor of the specific fans meeting them too. (I'm not calling anybody out here- more likely it was not how you acted as much as how the people just ahead of you in line acted.) I guess too that since I have never been interested in talking to players, even ones I really like, I really don't care that much whether they are nice in these brief encounters with individual fans. I think it's more interesting to think about their larger impact on the game and the culture. (Another way to put this: can you see Jackie Robinson being "sweet" and "nice" to every fan he met at a signing show? Neither can I. To some but not all.) To me Gibson belongs in that pioneering group w/ Jackie. We tend to forget he was only the 2nd black Cy Young winner (1968), and the first black pitcher in the HOF who was fully MLB (after Satchel). Also, he wasn't the first black Cardinals player, but St Louis was probably the toughest city in MLB for blacks to play at the time. (Check out the autobios of Gibson, Flood, etc. etc. for accounts of this.) He put up with a lot. IOW, I say honor the man even if he wasn't necessarily "nice" to everybody or to you-
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11-11-2015, 10:52 AM
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Gibson Memories
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