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Old 11-10-2015, 02:52 PM
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Ah ok I see what you're saying. Get them now and then sell for premium during induction year. I thought we were talking about long run. I don't see the premiums holding 20 years from now, but who knows.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:30 PM
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Ah ok I see what you're saying. Get them now and then sell for premium during induction year. I thought we were talking about long run. I don't see the premiums holding 20 years from now, but who knows.
I don't see the premium holding up on most, but some rarities may . Rivera is looking lower the his retirement year . I picked up 5 packs of 1992 bowman pizza, Rivera , chipper all in one set . I got the packs for a good price .
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Old 11-10-2015, 09:11 PM
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He was already mentioned and I know he is still active but I feel Ichiro would be one of the biggest up swing potentials. He has faded from the spotlight in Miami and doesn't get the national buzz he used to so picking up his stuff now is easy. His rookies were produced after the production slow down started so it's not as cheap and accessible as 91 Topps but not 1/1 either.

Once he does retire in a year or so he will have to wait five more for induction. That's at least six or seven years from now until he is in the main spotlight of the hall of fame.

Once induction comes all the memories of his unreal hitting in a time when PED numbers were rampant. All those consecutive 200+ hit years and on top of that the first Asian born HOFer will make his stuff go through the roof.

All just speculation but seems pretty plausible to me.
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:45 AM
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I think you're right about Ichiro. Even Hideo Nomo's stuff still sells strong. Ichiro's signature cards are pretty expensive now but I'm with you in thinking they'll skyrocket once he gets in. Especially if he chooses to live in Japan, which would make him much less accessible.
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Old 11-11-2015, 03:43 PM
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The other thing about Ichiro is there is obviously a strong market for his cards from collectors in Japan as well - not just in the good old us of a. I've sold stuff of his on eBay in the past and was surprised by the number of bids coming from Japan.
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Old 11-12-2015, 07:40 PM
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Seems to me like the boat has sailed on Griffey. Sales are currently higher than they have been in years because of the HOF speculation.

It's a done deal that he will be elected and ebay will be swamped in Griffey. I think there may be a small premium to make but if you are just now getting on this ship, you are a year late.

Jeter is way overrated and to me a more regional superstar to east coasters. There might be room on some of the more rare rookies (inaugurals, etc.) in the future.

Ichiro sounds like the highest upside I have heard mentioned. Solid pick.
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Jeter is way overrated and to me a more regional superstar to east coasters.
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I find it interesting that he is being touted by the best SS in history by some. Yet Alan Trammell isn't in the HOF and they have a similar WAR over the same career length.

Trammell WAR: 70.4
Jeter WAR: 71.8

The biggest difference is that Jeter was only a good hitter not a fielder where his WAR number was actually diminished by his fielding. Trammell was a better rounded player.

Trammell - dWAR: 22 / oWAR: 62.4
Jeter - dWAR: -9.7 / oWAR: 95.5

Jeter's low dWAR doesn't even rank him in the top 1000 SS of all time. Where is oWAR does rank 20th. Trammell ranks 34th dWAR and 81st oWAR. To me that is a more rounded player. Fans have a tendency to reward hitting over fielding. Even when people talk about the most undeserving HOF players they are typically talking about players that were better fielders than hitters.

As a final note Trammell ranks 11th in JAWS whereas Jeter is 12th and Trammell's WAR7 (his best 7 WAR years) ranks him at 8th and Jeter is only at 42.2.

Jeter is a HOFer, but he won't be the best SS in the HOF.
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