1959 Topps color / toning variations

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

... turns out that the card in question was a 59 Venezuelan card.

Yes, I have noticed that about the Venezuelan cards. Unfortunately this Mays is T.C.G, U.S.A.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Yes, I have noticed that about the Venezuelan cards. Unfortunately this Mays is T.C.G, U.S.A.

The "TCG, USA" does not disqualify this card from being a Venezuelan issue.....from Dave's blog post: "Two different countries of origin are referenced and some cards can be found with a PRINTED IN USA line while other states IMPRESO EN VENEZUELA POR BENCO C.A."

In other words, these 59 Venezuelan cards can have either of these origin statements.

In looking at the front scan, it appears the Mays is almost "too" bright to be a Venezuelan. If you could, please post a scan of the back also.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

...In other words, these 59 Venezuelan cards can have either of these origin statements.

In looking at the front scan, it appears the Mays is almost "too" bright to be a Venezuelan. If you could, please post a scan of the back also.

Interesting. I had been under the impression all of them had the "Hecho en Venezuela" line on the back if they were indeed Venezuelan. I once had a Venezuelan '59 Mantle and that's what it had.

How do you tell the difference in a Venezuelan '59 that says "Printed in U.S.A." vs. a regular US one? If it's just the nuance of color, then I'm afraid I don't know. Per your request, here is pic of the back. I will say that in my own opinion, the back of this card is darker / more brownish than it appears in this scan, but who knows. If anyone wants to tell me this is Venezuelan (and maybe worth like 10x what I paid for it...) that would be great.

[ALR-bishop]

See in particular post 6


http://net54baseball.com/showthread....lan+1959+spahn

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Interesting. I had been under the impression all of them had the "Hecho en Venezuela" line on the back if they were indeed Venezuelan. I once had a Venezuelan '59 Mantle and that's what it had.

How do you tell the difference in a Venezuelan '59 that says "Printed in U.S.A." vs. a regular US one? If it's just the nuance of color, then I'm afraid I don't know. Per your request, here is pic of the back. I will say that in my own opinion, the back of this card is darker / more brownish than it appears in this scan, but who knows. If anyone wants to tell me this is Venezuelan (and maybe worth like 10x what I paid for it...) that would be great.

Does not appear your Mays is a Venezuelan.....Josh has a picture of his Mays cards posted on the PSA registry: http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistr...aspx?s=183698#

In this case both of his Mays cards (no matter the back color) have the "Hecho en Venezuela" tag.

[jchcollins]

Thanks all for the info.

[toppcat]

I have to find my notes but don't believe the two varieties of indicia on the 59 Venezuelan's are interchangeable. Either a card has one or the other, there's no variation with it. It's possible the card stock may determine the indicia but again I have to find my notes. To make it worse, I think the team cards don't have anything identifying them.