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Old 11-13-2015, 06:51 PM
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They certainly did a better job with the case and flip than the card in my opinion but it looks like it's good enough to fool most bidders. I don't know if every 51 bowman mantle has it, but I always look for what resembles a blue pen mark in the upper right corner above the bat. I see the real card has it in this case and the fake one doesn't. The same mark is on mine and a few others I checked right now out of curiosity on ebay.
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They certainly did a better job with the case and flip than the card in my opinion but it looks like it's good enough to fool most bidders. I don't know if every 51 bowman mantle has it, but I always look for what resembles a blue pen mark in the upper right corner above the bat. I see the real card has it in this case and the fake one doesn't. The same mark is on mine and a few others I checked right now out of curiosity on ebay.
The fake one has it, just lighter. Look closely.


How to tell the fake? The short dash on the flip helps and for some reason the bar code wasn't copied. Is there an app for bar codes?
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:35 PM
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When I used the online barcode reader (at http://online-barcode-reader.inliter...m/default.aspx), both barcodes came back with the correct number (17934999). The HS card's code type was "Interleaved2of5". The Ebay card's code type was "Code128". I have no idea what that barcode type stuff relates to.

From a google search....among other things...Code128 types are for alpha-numeric, all ASCII characters and used world-wide; interleaved2of5 are numeric only encoding digits in pairs
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:10 PM
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When I used the online barcode reader (at http://online-barcode-reader.inliter...m/default.aspx), both barcodes came back with the correct number (17934999). The HS card's code type was "Interleaved2of5". The Ebay card's code type was "Code128". I have no idea what that barcode type stuff relates to.
That is awesome and very informative.......except I have no idea what that really means.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:03 AM
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The backs, Huggins on the left.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:59 AM
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50/50 chance it's a PSA labeling error, but good work Pete.
Here's a card with a short hyphen in "VG-EX".
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:13 PM
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The non huggins and scott card looks bogus from these pics as does the flip.
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50/50 chance it's a PSA labeling error, but good work Pete.
Here's a card with a short hyphen in "VG-EX".
Good work on posting the card with the short hyphen. There are no spaces before and after the hyphen on the card you posted. The Ebay card has spaces. Maybe PSA has printed labels using spaces along with not using spaces with the short hyphen. Maybe someone can add more in regards to PSA label printing. I know they have changed several times over the years.
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The backs, Huggins on the left.
Isn't the whiteness in the upper left corner of the eBay card a tell that it is fake? Should the card stock be that white under the gray?
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When I used the online barcode reader (at http://online-barcode-reader.inliter...m/default.aspx), both barcodes came back with the correct number (17934999). The HS card's code type was "Interleaved2of5". The Ebay card's code type was "Code128". I have no idea what that barcode type stuff relates to.

From a google search....among other things...Code128 types are for alpha-numeric, all ASCII characters and used world-wide; interleaved2of5 are numeric only encoding digits in pairs
Turns out PSA uses interleaved2of5 type for their barcodes. So the Ebay flip with the barcode using code128 type is bogus, which is pretty much what we've decided within this thread anyway.

So when checking barcodes against cert numbers, make sure the barcode not only matches the cert number but it is also of type "interleaved2of5".
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