Alert: a tale of two 51B Mantles

[Stonepony]

What a shame for the buyer. I don't buy into the thoughts of " they got what they deserved for being naive about cards". These are sophisticated scams. I hope I'm not next.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It's pretty stupid to buy a 5K card from a guy with essentially no feedback except on a couple of low dollar items, but still, that does not excuse fraud.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's pretty stupid to buy a 5K card from a guy with essentially no feedback except on a couple of low dollar items, but still, that does not excuse fraud.

Agree buying by from a low feedback seller is risky ( as for stupid...a lot of stupid people bought some amazing cards from me when I got back on eBay several years ago), but a card like this may eventually end up being offered by a more seasoned seller....idk....it's scary

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Agree buying by from a low feedback seller is risky ( as for stupid...a lot of stupid people bought some amazing cards from me when I got back on eBay several years ago), but a card like this may eventually end up being offered by a more seasoned seller....idk....it's scary

Guy has sold some $10 commons but now all of the sudden has a 5K Mantle card? People need to apply reason.

[Jobu]

He did also sell a 56 Topps set for $1900, though how many of those are fake I have no idea.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Guy has sold some $10 commons but now all of the sudden has a 5K Mantle card? People need to apply reason.

Nailed it, Pete, but it is very scary. Way to be on the lookout.

Highest regards,

Larry

[slidekellyslide]

Didn't we have some members here who could get an ebay auction shut down? What happened there?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Didn't we have some members here who could get an ebay auction shut down? What happened there?

It's worthless to try. I told Joe Orlando who says he told ebay, still no action was taken.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

What a shame for the buyer. I don't buy into the thoughts of " they got what they deserved for being naive about cards". These are sophisticated scams. I hope I'm not next.

It's too bad there isn't way to get a message to the winner. 5k is a lot for a fake that certainly fooled quite a few people. I doubt the buyer would even think to send this one into PSA for verification and will most likely have no recourse after the fraud is discovered.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

It's too bad there isn't way to get a message to the winner. 5k is a lot for a fake that certainly fooled quite a few people. I doubt the buyer would even think to send this one into PSA for verification and will most likely have no recourse after the fraud is discovered.

No can do, thanks to ebay making everything invisible. Ebay does not seem interested in preventing fraud.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No can do, thanks to ebay making everything invisible. Ebay does not seem interested in preventing fraud.

if fake ones go for 4800 (and many people didn't bid cause they knew it was fake) I wonder how much a real psa 4 goes for on ebay....no need to quote other AHs....just wondering at the next PWCC auction etc..

[Rookiemonster]

Jordan rookie must be so easy to does this with . Some of those fakes are really really good .

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

if fake ones go for 4800 (and many people didn't bid cause they knew it was fake) I wonder how much a real psa 4 goes for on ebay....no need to quote other AHs....just wondering at the next PWCC auction etc..

That was a dead centered fake 4. A dead centered real one in a pwcc I would say 6k give or take

[rjackson44]

These are common scams that have been happening for years nothing new just scams.sucker born every day.thanks Peter