1952 Topps PSA 8 Monty Basgall-Hertiage

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Yes, it is an insult to assume that it's above most people's budget. The fact that there aren't many cards listed here over $1500 is irrelevant to your point.



I didn't insult you.

Picture this. You and your wife go to the mattress store to pick out a new mattress set. You're greeted at the door by a salesman and, as he's showing you around he says, "This mattress is our best seller. It's normally priced at $4999, but we've got it on sale for $3999. I know this mattress is above your budget, but maybe you know someone" and then he proceeds to take you to the $200 mattress. Is that not insulting?

yes you did insult me ...no reason to make negative comments on a b/s/t thread like you did....if my post is so bad let me just live with it and have no chance to sell it......

its not irrelevant to point out that you and many people on here don't list many cards for $1500....that's because there is not a big push budget wise for postwar cards here on net54...people may have a budget for $30,000 for a Cy young prewar but they don't have the budget for the post war..

your analogy with the matress is beyond ridiculous......cards are bought and sold on the internet in the thousands and thousands of dollars versus mattresses...I have never gone to a mattress store thinking of a friend wanting a mattress...I don't know of 20 people right now looking for a mattress but I do know 10 or so people looking for certain 1952 Topps cards......plus I am not talking to a direct person like your example with the mattress...its a general post realizing I may not find anyone but worth a try because they may know someone.. If there was a sign at the mattress store saying 'super mattress, $9,000 dollars, above budget for most but if you know someone ' that doesn't offend me in the leeeast...plus maybe theres a finder fee......the mattress analogy is terrible...and im up for a good analogy...

people post all the time on net54 about selling items for a 'friend'. or relative...people also look for items for friend and relatives on net54.....

plus its not like I put a card for $20.00 like one of yours and said, if cant buy the $1500 card I have a $20.00 card for you....why you add that nonsense to your analogy..(saying I dont thave a $5000 matress but directing you to a $200 mattress )...I never said anything like that in the post.......I listed one card that's it.....

I have seen auction houses say that an item is probably over budget for many in not so many words.....in fact auctions are the main business of baseball cards...always a factor in a private sale is what it goes for auction.....yeah that happens with mattresses too.iil look for them in the next pwcc auction .....budget in what you are targeting is everything in a hobby.......didn't know mattresses were a hobby... maybe for don juan..

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

the mattress analogy is terrible...and im up for a good analogy...

Well then you pick the analogy. But in the analogy, there has to be somebody selling something and the seller tells any potential buyer, "This is probably above your budget...".

If a salesman told you that, Jake, wouldn't you be offended in any circumstance?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Well then you pick the analogy. But in the analogy, there has to be somebody selling something and the seller tells any potential buyer, "This is probably above your budget...".

If a salesman told you that, Jake, wouldn't you be offended in any circumstance?

sometimes they say that at a car dealership because they think the customer will challenge that accusation. and pay more than they can afford, even though it really was over their budget but the car salesman got the sale they wanted.....

I have listed prior cards and gotten PMs with offers that are well below market price with 'that's all I can afford' ..people use their budget as an excuse all the time in trying to get a lower price...I have been told sometimes they only have so much a month to spend as well..my post was to basically say yeah I know the card isn't for everyone..maybe I just should of said that..but it was not meant to be insulting...

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

sometimes they say that at a car dealership because they think the customer will challenge that accusation.

I owned my own company called Dealer Advertising Solutions. I've done work for over 100 dealerships including the majority of dealerships in Houston. I've done work for dealerships from Dallas to Brownsville, from San Antonio to Beaumont. I've have never heard a car salesman say, "I know this car is above your budget..." Then again, I've been out of the business since 2007. Maybe this is a new sales tactic?

I'm done with this. All I am doing is bumping your insulting thread to the top, pushing the non-insulting threads down the page which isn't fair to the other sellers. Goodbye!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I owned my own company called Dealer Advertising Solutions. I've done work for over 100 dealerships including the majority of dealerships in Houston. I've done work for dealerships from Dallas to Brownsville, from San Antonio to Beaumont. I've have never heard a car salesman say, "I know this car is above your budget..." Then again, I've been out of the business since 2007. Maybe this is a new sales tactic?

I'm done with this. All I am doing is bumping your insulting thread to the top, pushing the non-insulting threads down the page which isn't fair to the other sellers. Goodbye!

you are the one doing the insulting...basically we both know you had ZERO interest in the card but for some reason bothered to make a comment on my B/S/T thread..why waste everyone's time....well here is my answer to your last post..(again you have zero interest so whats your point except trolling).......

my family was in the car business as well for many years and actually sold cars....If you think to sell a car they haven't tried everything to sell a car then well im surprised you were in the car business...though not sure what 'done work for' means...doing advertising is a lot different than selling cars..limiting what car salesman tactics are is foolish...I have seen cars salesman say 'maybe you shouldn't buy this, maybe you cant afford it...its over your budget'...all the time on a higher priced car like a sports car ...'never heard of a car salesman say' guess that means never done..haha......theres an expression in the car business 'theres a butt for every seat'....cars salesman have tried EVERYTHING, but I guess your vast experience in advertising means you know it all.. or perhaps Texas car sellers never try to sell a car to a buyer that they really couldn't afford...never happens...they never repo cars in texas...
person's budget?

im guessing you haven't been in the mattress business....waiting for that $5000 dollar mattress and a $200 option if cant pay for the $5000....lol

[Peter_Spaeth]

A b/s/t thread quite unlike any other. Carry on.

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A b/s/t thread quite unlike any other. Carry on.

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Damn! Wish I had the popcorn concession for this hair pull.

[cammb]

I would be surprised if you sold that card here on this board. Not too many 52 topps buyers here.