"Back run" defined

[Mighty Casey]

Thanks for all of the great ideas and conversation.

I can never stay very focused with any one part of my collection so this is all conjecture for me at this point. From what I understand, the toughest Bresnahan (portrait) back is a Brown Hindu. Otherwise, it would be pointless for me. With blank backs, various factories, etc... I suppose that might not necessarily be true. I really like the thought of finding a treasured card (for my specific collection) and not paying an exorbitant premium. (common back...yet different factory) That is the stuff collectors dream of.

I'm almost 50 and I have another 150 years of collecting planned.

[ullmandds]

mark...i used to be a type collector...and part of the fun...for me...of doing a caramel/tobacco run is that it is basically type collecting...except with the same/similar fronts...which to me is infinitely exciting and holds my interest. Atleast until it's complete...then I will likely no longer be interested!!!!

Good luck whatever u decide.

[Yoda]

Having been out of the hobby for 10 years, one of the revelations upon my return about the current vintage hobby is the strong interest, perhaps for some obsession, with T206 backs. I believe it was a marketing masterstroke by the tpg cos. to break out separate tobacco company reverses and start a population report on each player/back. It started a whole new level of interest among T206 collectors for the tougher reverses and a windfall, I guess, for grading cos. I can't even image what my Griffith batting PSA 7 Drum back, long gone, might be worth today. Another sleepless night.

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Having been out of the hobby for 10 years, one of the revelations upon my return about the current vintage hobby is the strong interest, perhaps for some obsession, with T206 backs. I believe it was a marketing masterstroke by the tpg cos. to break out separate tobacco company reverses and start a population report on each player/back. It started a whole new level of interest among T206 collectors for the tougher reverses and a windfall, I guess, for grading cos. I can't even image what my Griffith batting PSA 7 Drum back, long gone, might be worth today. Another sleepless night.

Actually, you have cause and effect backwards. The advanced T206 community started to appreciate back nuance, which led TPG kicking and screaming to its current posture. PSA didn't even include back brands on the flip until circa 2011.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Actually, you have cause and effect backwards. The advanced T206 community started to appreciate back nuance, which led TPG kicking and screaming to its current posture. PSA didn't even include back brands on the flip until circa 2011.

Correct...the TPG'ers in general have been quite ignorant to the nuances of back collecting...even to this day

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Correct...the TPG'ers in general have been quite ignorant to the nuances of back collecting...even to this day

Yep. It's a case of supply meeting existing demand, not supply creating its own demand (e.g. iPhone).

[Jantz]

Originally Posted by Mighty Casey

Thanks for all of the great ideas and conversation.

I can never stay very focused with any one part of my collection so this is all conjecture for me at this point. From what I understand, the toughest Bresnahan (portrait) back is a Brown Hindu. Otherwise, it would be pointless for me. With blank backs, various factories, etc... I suppose that might not necessarily be true. I really like the thought of finding a treasured card (for my specific collection) and not paying an exorbitant premium. (common back...yet different factory) That is the stuff collectors dream of.

I'm almost 50 and I have another 150 years of collecting planned.

Mark

Touching on your comment about staying focused, it would be easier for you to do a "brand" run than a "back" run as sreader3 has mentioned in post #13.

I would bet that you will find a Hindu back before you find all 5 different Sweet Caporal backs. Assuming you don't have some of the Sweet Caporal backs already, you will need some focus to find them all.

In the end, it all comes down to what you prefer.

Hope this helps

Jantz

[Harford20]

Mighty Casey,
As Jantz just pointed out, for the Print Group 1 cards, like the Bresnahan Portrait, you will likely find the Brown Hindu well before all the Sweet Caporal backs.

BUT, even worse, you will find 5-6 Hindu backs before you find the Old Mill back. There was a low-grade Hindu that just sold last month; I would expect the Old Mill to come up only a few times a decade.

(Just from my experience with my Print Group 1 Lajoie Throwing back run).
Dave