Another fake 52T Mantle on ebay

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I really don't know why we bother posting ebay listings on non established sellers on 1952 mantles or similar cards...anyone with a real one that has no real selling history will consign it or send it someone that has a real reputation that you can collect from if the card is fake and not just through the ebay process.

maybe 5 years ago..but now with the current prices , everyone needs to stop looking for 'deals' you will have to bid at auction like everyone else....there are no 'deal's on 1952 mantles...not sure why anyone even clicks those listings...

Jake are you saying you don't look at the listings? Be truthful now.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Jake are you saying you don't look at the listings? Be truthful now.

no I don't anymore . never going to buy so why look...people do email me from time to time to see if I recognize a listing I not looking to buy etc and will never click the listing on my own anymore.

would you look at a t206 honus wagner psa 3 listed for 200k from a guy with 20 feedback selling a $5.55 fishing rod among feedback.?..I wouldn't even bother to click the listing..its like that now for me on 51B mantle and 52T mantle....if I want one ill just have to pay at a real auction house or from an established real seller ....it really a waste of time now to look to buy from joe public....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

no I don't anymore . never going to buy so why look...people do email me from time to time to see if I recognize a listing I not looking to buy etc and will never click the listing on my own anymore.

would you look at a t206 honus wagner psa 3 listed for 200k from a guy with 20 feedback selling a $5.55 fishing rod among feedback.?..I wouldn't even bother to click the listing..its like that now for me on 51B mantle and 52T mantle....if I want one ill just have to pay at a real auction house or from an established real seller ....it really a waste of time now to look to buy from joe public....

Well you were as recently as a couple of weeks ago on a PSA 4 52T Mantle, right? The one being offered by "Walter" that I showed you was a fake using a serial number from a past auction?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well you were as recently as a couple of weeks ago on a PSA 4 52T Mantle, right? The one being offered by "Walter" that I showed you was a fake using a serial number from a past auction?

like I said..i don't look anymore its a waste of time....people shouldn't be worried about putting funds in escrow etc...they are all fake...why even risk it....I wont even click any of the listings anymore...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Well I agree with you there, they are all fake. But I don't feel badly about alerting people and trying to do my part to stop it.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well I agree with you there, they are all fake. But I don't feel badly about alerting people and trying to do my part to stop it.

I have no problem with you doing that..i just see other posters talking about seriously looking to buy cards and talking about putting funds in escrow..it looks like they are putting in real time searching ebay listings... its like lookin for for a real t206 wagner that a guy says found in a house he just bought....it really a waste of time...the 1952 mantle is in that league now....you wont have to warn anyone if people treated the mantle like the t206 wagner...you aren't warning people about buying 'real' t206 wagners....no need too...and shouldn't need to warn about the mantle anymore is what I am saying....but you can do what you want...

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I have no problem with you doing that..i just see other posters talking about seriously looking to buy cards and talking about putting funds in escrow..it looks like they are putting in real time searching ebay listings... its like lookin for for a real t206 wagner that a guy says found in a house he just bought....it really a waste of time...the 1952 mantle is in that league now....you wont have to warn anyone if people treated the mantle like the t206 wagner...you aren't warning people about buying 'real' t206 wagners....no need too...and shouldn't need to warn about the mantle anymore is what I am saying....but you can do what you want...

If you're talking about me I wasted about 5 minutes contacting the ebay seller. I've wasted more time reading this thread. I only suggested putting the money in an escrow account to see what he would say. Had he agreed I would have talked to him on the phone, asked for more scans, done whatever I could to verify he had the card before paying any escrow fees. I'm not an idiot.

Didn't you say you bought a 52 Mantle off craigslist? There may have been a 1 in a million shot this ebay seller actually had this card, or less. But it didn't hurt anything to find out for sure. Just like it was along shot someone was actually selling a 52 Mantle on craigslist.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I have no problem with you doing that..i just see other posters talking about seriously looking to buy cards and talking about putting funds in escrow..it looks like they are putting in real time searching ebay listings... its like lookin for for a real t206 wagner that a guy says found in a house he just bought....it really a waste of time...the 1952 mantle is in that league now....you wont have to warn anyone if people treated the mantle like the t206 wagner...you aren't warning people about buying 'real' t206 wagners....no need too...and shouldn't need to warn about the mantle anymore is what I am saying....but you can do what you want...

Obviously, there is an issue with scammers trying to sell fake 52T Mantles on eBay, just as there is with any iconic, high dollar card.

But the reason people don't view a 52T Mantle the same way they view a T206 Wagner is because it simply isn't. T206resource.com doesn't show even one real T206 Wagner as ever having sold on eBay; Real 52T Mantles still sell many times over on eBay.

A destroyed, beater of a trimmed Wagner T206 is still a quarter of a million dollar card. The 52T Mantle has been on a sharp rise of late, but it is nowhere near that kind of value.

[Huck]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

would you look at a t206 honus wagner psa 3 listed for 200k from a guy with 20 feedback selling a $5.55 fishing rod among feedback.?.

That observation made me laugh out loud.