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Old 12-07-2015, 04:24 PM
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Some would say a sad day for the hobby and some would say a good day. I would say a little of both.
I guess the sad part is he didn't get a lot more time and a much larger fine.
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Old 12-07-2015, 04:32 PM
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I guess the sad part is he didn't get a lot more time and a much larger fine.
and it's sad other fellow collectors won't be receiving any more "gifts" from good old Bill to try to persuade the judge he was/is a model citizen.
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:08 PM
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mastro should have went to prison longer than 20 months when people who commit lesser crimes get longer sentences than him.
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:12 PM
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mastro should have went to prison longer than 20 months when people who commit lesser crimes get longer sentences than him.
True story. But those who rob have money. Those who have money can buy lawyers. Lawyers make a difference as sad as it is. Money makes a difference in the judicial system as sad as that is. "Justice" is not and should not be claimed to have happened nor ever happened in a court room. They heard you in like cattle and get you out just as fast. They give ZERO shits about the situation only getting it over with.

Just my two cents. Lawyers on this board tell me I'm wrong I'm sure you would or could but I have ZERO RESPECT for lawyers aka whores.

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Old 12-07-2015, 05:17 PM
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True story. But those who rob have money. Those who have money can buy lawyers. Lawyers make a difference as sad as it is. Money makes a difference in the judicial system as sad as that is. "Justice" is not and should not be claimed to have happened nor ever happened in a court room. They heard you in like cattle and get you out just as fast. They give ZERO shits about the situation only getting it over with.

Just my two cents. Lawyers on this board tell me I'm wrong I'm sure you would or could but I have ZERO RESPECT for lawyers aka whores.

Paid to lie for money, just the same.
Do you have any clue wtf you are talking about? Good lord.
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:24 AM
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Do you have any clue wtf you are talking about? Good lord.
I don't know how I could be more clear. Should I take it slower for you?
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:05 AM
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I don't know how I could be more clear. Should I take it slower for you?
So if you are ever wrongly accused of a crime who do you plan to call?
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:05 AM
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I don't know how I could be more clear. Should I take it slower for you?
Your idiotic babble would be the same at any speed.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:46 PM
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Do you have any clue wtf you are talking about? Good lord.
+1 into infinity. Certainly justice is not done in every case--no system in the world is perfect, but apparently Josh is unaware that he is living in the best one by a country mile! Never assume, for example, that you are truly presumed innocent when a defendant in a criminal action. The good part of our system, however, is that if affords an opportunity to prove one's innocence. And certainly Josh is correct insofar as the fact that when a lot of money is at stake in a civil action, some "lawyers" don't hesitate to throw morals and ethics out the window. These "representatives" of our profession limit themselves only to what they feel they can get away with. I see that all the time as an appellate attorney, especially dealing with six and seven-figure cases, when the well-heeled defendant's counsel writes 30-40 pages of pure BS in his brief, playing it fast and loose with the facts, law, or both. I call those "beat me, beat me" briefs, smile, and go about doing just that, thoroughly exposing and dismantling them in my reply. What usually happens next is the appellate panel of judges cross-examines the s__t out of the offender at oral argument.

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Old 12-08-2015, 09:42 PM
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Just my two cents. Lawyers on this board tell me I'm wrong I'm sure you would or could but I have ZERO RESPECT for lawyers aka whores.

Paid to lie for money, just the same.
I think you just pissed off about half of this board's membership.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:38 PM
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I think you just pissed off about half of this board's membership.
Nah, nobody cares what a moron like that thinks.
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Old 12-07-2015, 09:21 PM
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Was he being serious ? I mistook his comments for a Jack Handey Deep Thought
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:21 AM
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Glad I did.
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:24 PM
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True story. But those who rob have money. Those who have money can buy lawyers. Lawyers make a difference as sad as it is. Money makes a difference in the judicial system as sad as that is. "Justice" is not and should not be claimed to have happened nor ever happened in a court room. They heard you in like cattle and get you out just as fast. They give ZERO shits about the situation only getting it over with.

Just my two cents. Lawyers on this board tell me I'm wrong I'm sure you would or could but I have ZERO RESPECT for lawyers aka whores.

Paid to lie for money, just the same.
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I have ZERO RESPECT for lawyers aka whores.
Paid to lie for money, just the same.
Ah yes, lessons in morality from the guy with a reputation for using slurs against homosexuals and people with disabilities in his posts. I'll pass.

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Old 12-07-2015, 10:19 PM
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"Lawyer whore" is redundant.
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:22 PM
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"Lawyer whore" is redundant.
Well, we are certainly known for using more words than are necessary.
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:47 AM
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"Lawyer whore" is redundant.
A lawyer AND a whore?! Cool - I'd like to date her.
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You should be thankful that butchering the English language is not a crime punishable with prison time.
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:58 AM
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Now that's funny.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:55 AM
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Everyone has a problem with aggressive lawyers until they or their family member needs one. A lawyer who lies regularly, particularly to courts, will have a very short, very unpleasant career. As a lawyer your credibility is first and foremost your currency. If you push it too far or blatantly ignore ethical rules you will sooner or later get your comeuppance in a big way. Just like you can't BS people for long selling cards at a high level, you can't as a lawyer. The system is unfair in that better lawyers cost more money and are unavailable to many people. I've been involved in death row cases and the level of incompetent lawyering in some of these cases is mind boggling.
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I guess the sad part is he didn't get a lot more time and a much larger fine.
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and it's sad other fellow collectors won't be receiving any more "gifts" from good old Bill to try to persuade the judge he was/is a model citizen.
A BIG +1

I would assume getting a gift was better than him turning on you like he done with others that considered him a friend. Not much worse in life that a POS turning in their friends to get a lighter sentence. Hopefully he is the new play toy.
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