Lelands lot 407 shows a 1892-93 J.U. Stead Keeler and states the only one known.

[1880nonsports]

I have my helmet on so have at it. it's a cabinet photograph and as such I would not approach it as I would a base ball CARD. Different treatments are seen as acceptable with a photograph. It's been cleaned to remove stuff. Nothing has been rebuilt or reconstructed. While it should be disclosed in a sale when known I personally wouldn't use the term restored.
BTW - my best to you Jerry. Hopefully I'll see you in AC.

[jerrys]

Hi Henry -

The pin hole shows before work was done. Plugging it up is a stage of restoration.

Take off your helmet now.

[1880nonsports]

fingers engaged before brain I was just browsing the site and ran across your two pix. My bad. I think I'll keep the helmet on as there are a lot of jagged corners on most of my furniture and I don't handle the bruises as well as when I was younger.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

fingers engaged before brain I was just browsing the site and ran across your two pix. My bad. I think I'll keep the helmet on as there are a lot of jagged corners on most of my furniture and I don't handle the bruises as well as when I was younger.

Note Cy w/Helmet in Avatar....Take my lead Henry.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

I have my helmet on so have at it. it's a cabinet photograph and as such I would not approach it as I would a base ball CARD. Different treatments are seen as acceptable with a photograph. It's been cleaned to remove stuff. Nothing has been rebuilt or reconstructed. While it should be disclosed in a sale when known I personally wouldn't use the term restored.
BTW - my best to you Jerry. Hopefully I'll see you in AC.

Huh?!?!

[1880nonsports]

it looked like it had been cleaned - I didn't see the pinhole(s). In my mind a cabinet photo isn't the same as a baseball card. Just my opinion from observation and synthesis of how the issue of cleaning seems to be treated in both hobbies. Removing glue and stains from a photo or the mount isn't generally regarded as an egregious treatment "altering" the item whereas in the card hobby most would consider it alteration.

[drcy]

The Mastro one was restored (cleaned up) before that auction. There was a long thread about that way back when.

[Bicem]

Nice catch Jerry, thanks for the heads up! Card or no card everything done to it should have been disclosed.

[prestigecollectibles]

Looks the same as the one in the 2004 Mastro auction

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/lot-43173.aspx

[1880nonsports]

The funny thing is that everyone would agree were they to post a comment that things should be disclosed - I've never heard otherwise - but somehow many things just get moved on through the hobby without a word.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

The funny thing is that everyone would agree were they to post a comment that things should be disclosed - I've never heard otherwise - but somehow many things just get moved on through the hobby without a word.

Very true, thank goodness we have the professional graders to help us out!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by drcy

The Mastro one was restored (cleaned up) before that auction. There was a long thread about that way back when.

Yeah that was a hell of a thread.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ghlight=keeler