NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-07-2016, 03:04 PM
Luke's Avatar
Luke Luke is offline
Luke Lyon
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 4,250
Default

Here are mine:

I have a theory that Jones (while he does belong in this group) is actually pretty common as far as EPDG backs go. At one point a couple months ago, me and a friend had 5 copies between the two of us. Could just be an anomaly, but it hasn't been easy to sell the dupes either.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Ganley EPDG.jpg (72.3 KB, 1940 views)
File Type: jpg Ganley P350.jpg (76.2 KB, 1930 views)
File Type: jpg Jones EPDG.jpg (75.4 KB, 1943 views)
File Type: jpg Karger EPDG.jpg (76.7 KB, 1934 views)
File Type: jpg Dahlen Boston P350.jpg (77.7 KB, 1934 views)
File Type: jpg Shaw Piedmont 350.jpg (19.6 KB, 1918 views)
File Type: jpg Scahefer Detroit EPDG.jpg (76.7 KB, 1924 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-07-2016, 04:29 PM
Thromdog's Avatar
Thromdog Thromdog is offline
J3ff Thr0m
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,452
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeLyon View Post
I have a theory that Jones (while he does belong in this group) is actually pretty common as far as EPDG backs go. At one point a couple months ago, me and a friend had 5 copies between the two of us. Could just be an anomaly, but it hasn't been easy to sell the dupes either.
I'm starting to buy into that theory with most if not all of these, to be honest. Dahlen being a possible exception.

We know that referencing pop records can be skewed based on HOF status, that's been talked about frequently. But the pops on these 11 are very middle of the road for that back in comparison, maybe a little lower than normal at best. So what gives?

P350's? A totally different story.....Luke's are awesome.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-07-2016, 07:00 PM
tedzan tedzan is offline
Ted Zanidakis
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsylvania & Maine
Posts: 10,053
Default Reprising the T206 "Elite 12"......

Listed here is the recent pop report data (PSA +SGC) on these Elite 12 guys with respect to their PIEDMONT 350 backs.

4......Dahlen (Boston)
7......Ewing
11.....Ganley
8......Tom Jones (St Louis)
10.....Karger
6......Lindaman
11.....Lundgren (Cubs)
2......Mullin (throwing)
9......Schaefer (Detroit)
9......Al Shaw (St Louis)
4......Spencer
1......Schulte

Note for comparison............
There are a total of 144 subjects in the 150/350 series of the T206 set. That leaves 132 subjects that were printed in the normal PIEDMONT 350 press runs.

Overall average of PIEDMONT 350 cards of the 132 subjects = 138 examples (PSA + SGC). Overall average of the Elite 12 subjects = 6.7 examples (PSA + SGC).

Therefore, with respect to PIEDMONT 350 cards, the ratio of the 132 guys in the 150/350 series to the Elite 12 guys (150/35 series) is at least 20.6 to 1.


TED Z
.

Last edited by tedzan; 01-11-2016 at 09:55 AM. Reason: Correct math error.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-07-2016, 07:20 PM
cubman1941 cubman1941 is offline
Jim Boushley
Jim Bou.shley
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,582
Default

I enjoy reading about these T206's and have a question. Are there not 3 Piedmont backs - the 150 Subjects the 350 Subjects and the New 350-460 Subjects? I run a "Duke's mixture" of these three backs throughout the few Cubs I have. This just adds, to me, the number of backs I have to look fo.
Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-07-2016, 08:51 PM
Sean's Avatar
Sean Sean is offline
Sean Costello
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Woodland, California
Posts: 3,827
Default

There is actually a fourth Piedmont, the 350-460 back from Factory 42.

All of the 150 and 350 series, as well as most of the 350-460, were shipped from Factory 25. The "42s" come with a serious premium.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-08-2016, 05:12 AM
cubman1941 cubman1941 is offline
Jim Boushley
Jim Bou.shley
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,582
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
There is actually a fourth Piedmont, the 350-460 back from Factory 42.

All of the 150 and 350 series, as well as most of the 350-460, were shipped from Factory 25. The "42s" come with a serious premium.
Thanks for the info - now I have even more Cubs to look for. Appreciate it.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-08-2016, 07:04 PM
tedzan tedzan is offline
Ted Zanidakis
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsylvania & Maine
Posts: 10,053
Default Possible distribution area of the Elite 12 cards

Here are two stories that suggest to us that the PIEDMONT packs that contained the Elite 12 cards were distributed in Georgia.

Seven years ago, I acquired Dahlen and Ewing with PIEDMONT 350 (P 350) backs from ebay. My curiosity prompted me to contact this ebay Seller.
This Seller owned an Antique shop in Atlanta. He was a really friendly guy to talk with, he said that he had acquired 200+ T206's (all PIEDMONT's)
that were from a original collection in that area. I asked him if he had certain cards with P 350 backs. I was quite surprised to hear he had Ganley,
Karger, Lindaman, 2 - Tom Jones, and another Ewing with P 350 backs. So, I purchased all of them.

Since the 1980's, I have acquired several T206 collections from North and South Carolina and never found any of these Elite 12 with P 350 backs.
My best one was an original T206 collection consisting of 400+ (all PIEDMONT's), and there were no Elite 12 with P 350 backs in it.


My 2nd story is from an old friend in the hobby. While vacationing in Georgia this past Summer, he came across an Antique shop that had a stack
of Tobacco cards. Sorting thru them, he pulled out a T206 Karger and a Mullin with P 350 backs.


Hey guys.....I'm curious if anyone on this forum has similar stories regarding these Elite 12 cards to share with us ?



TED Z
.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-07-2016, 09:03 PM
trdcrdkid's Avatar
trdcrdkid trdcrdkid is offline
David Kathman
member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,575
Default

I also have a Jones EPDG, which makes four in this thread (including Ted's).

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-07-2016, 10:06 PM
Wayne Wayne is offline
member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Odessa Tx
Posts: 51
Default

Just checked all mine and so far I do not have any oh well I will still keep pushing on to complete my modest set

Great information thank you for sharing
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-08-2016, 04:55 AM
frankbmd's Avatar
frankbmd frankbmd is offline
Fr@nk Burke++
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Between the 1st tee and the 19th hole
Posts: 7,586
Default

I always thought of myself as an "elite" collector.



Now I can prove it. Thanks Ted.
__________________
RAUCOUS SPORTS CARD FORUM MEMBER AND MONSTER FATHER.

GOOD FOR THE HOBBY AND THE FORUM WITH A VAULT IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION FILLED WITH WORTHLESS NON-FUNGIBLES


274/1000 Monster Number

Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hey folks....reprising my case for the "12 factor" in the T206 structure tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 25 09-06-2014 10:16 AM
Seeking the T206 "Elite" Piedmont 350's & the "Exclusive" Old Mills PEEK enterprises T206 cards B/S/T 0 10-05-2013 03:09 PM
T206 "Elite Eleven"....their various backs & SURVEY Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 40 07-25-2013 06:58 PM
The T206 "Elite Eight" have become the "Elite Eleven" tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 21 06-14-2013 03:47 PM
What is the "elite eight"?? T206 List? cobblove Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 27 05-09-2011 09:02 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:11 AM.


ebay GSB