Reprising the T206 "Elite 12"......show them, if you have any of them

[Luke]

Here are mine:

I have a theory that Jones (while he does belong in this group) is actually pretty common as far as EPDG backs go. At one point a couple months ago, me and a friend had 5 copies between the two of us. Could just be an anomaly, but it hasn't been easy to sell the dupes either.

[Thromdog]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

I have a theory that Jones (while he does belong in this group) is actually pretty common as far as EPDG backs go. At one point a couple months ago, me and a friend had 5 copies between the two of us. Could just be an anomaly, but it hasn't been easy to sell the dupes either.

I'm starting to buy into that theory with most if not all of these, to be honest. Dahlen being a possible exception.

We know that referencing pop records can be skewed based on HOF status, that's been talked about frequently. But the pops on these 11 are very middle of the road for that back in comparison, maybe a little lower than normal at best. So what gives?

P350's? A totally different story.....Luke's are awesome.

[tedzan]

Listed here is the recent pop report data (PSA +SGC) on these Elite 12 guys with respect to their PIEDMONT 350 backs.

4......Dahlen (Boston)
7......Ewing
11.....Ganley
8......Tom Jones (St Louis)
10.....Karger
6......Lindaman
11.....Lundgren (Cubs)
2......Mullin (throwing)
9......Schaefer (Detroit)
9......Al Shaw (St Louis)
4......Spencer
1......Schulte

Note for comparison............
There are a total of 144 subjects in the 150/350 series of the T206 set. That leaves 132 subjects that were printed in the normal PIEDMONT 350 press runs.

Overall average of PIEDMONT 350 cards of the 132 subjects = 138 examples (PSA + SGC). Overall average of the Elite 12 subjects = 6.7 examples (PSA + SGC).

Therefore, with respect to PIEDMONT 350 cards, the ratio of the 132 guys in the 150/350 series to the Elite 12 guys (150/35 series) is at least 20.6 to 1.


TED Z
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[cubman1941]

I enjoy reading about these T206's and have a question. Are there not 3 Piedmont backs - the 150 Subjects the 350 Subjects and the New 350-460 Subjects? I run a "Duke's mixture" of these three backs throughout the few Cubs I have. This just adds, to me, the number of backs I have to look fo.
Thanks.

[Sean]

There is actually a fourth Piedmont, the 350-460 back from Factory 42.

All of the 150 and 350 series, as well as most of the 350-460, were shipped from Factory 25. The "42s" come with a serious premium.

[cubman1941]

Originally Posted by Sean

There is actually a fourth Piedmont, the 350-460 back from Factory 42.

All of the 150 and 350 series, as well as most of the 350-460, were shipped from Factory 25. The "42s" come with a serious premium.

Thanks for the info - now I have even more Cubs to look for. Appreciate it.

[tedzan]

Here are two stories that suggest to us that the PIEDMONT packs that contained the Elite 12 cards were distributed in Georgia.

Seven years ago, I acquired Dahlen and Ewing with PIEDMONT 350 (P 350) backs from ebay. My curiosity prompted me to contact this ebay Seller.
This Seller owned an Antique shop in Atlanta. He was a really friendly guy to talk with, he said that he had acquired 200+ T206's (all PIEDMONT's)
that were from a original collection in that area. I asked him if he had certain cards with P 350 backs. I was quite surprised to hear he had Ganley,
Karger, Lindaman, 2 - Tom Jones, and another Ewing with P 350 backs. So, I purchased all of them.

Since the 1980's, I have acquired several T206 collections from North and South Carolina and never found any of these Elite 12 with P 350 backs.
My best one was an original T206 collection consisting of 400+ (all PIEDMONT's), and there were no Elite 12 with P 350 backs in it.


My 2nd story is from an old friend in the hobby. While vacationing in Georgia this past Summer, he came across an Antique shop that had a stack
of Tobacco cards. Sorting thru them, he pulled out a T206 Karger and a Mullin with P 350 backs.


Hey guys.....I'm curious if anyone on this forum has similar stories regarding these Elite 12 cards to share with us ?



TED Z
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[trdcrdkid]

I also have a Jones EPDG, which makes four in this thread (including Ted's).

[Wayne]

Just checked all mine and so far I do not have any oh well I will still keep pushing on to complete my modest set

Great information thank you for sharing

[frankbmd]

I always thought of myself as an "elite" collector.



Now I can prove it. Thanks Ted.