ebay sucks...advice needed

[Peter_Spaeth]

A few weeks ago? Fight it. Totally unreasonable.

[brob28]

I agree with Peter, a few weeks is too long, a few days would be reasonable.

[JCC]

eBay will allow returns if he lists the item not as described. It doesn't matter if you allow returns in your listing or not, eBay rules override that. They will allow returns up to 30 days past the expected delivery date.

[ullmandds]

well it seems that ebay does not abide by the "rational man" theorem. I called them and they suggest I contact the seller to attempt to resolve the issue prior to ebay intervening and almost guaranteed they will side with the seller.

[ullmandds]

i made no claims to condition in my auctions...

[jfkheat]

I believe Ebay allows up to 45 day to request a refund and Paypal is up to 180 days. If the buyer files a not as described claim there is a 99% chance he will win. It is one of the many flaws with how Ebay works. Having "no returns" in your description doesn't mean anything. I hope it works out for you but be prepared to issue a refund.
James

[slidekellyslide]

Ebay will side with the buyer. Guaranteed...the buyer can do no wrong in ebay's eyes. Not only that, but they will also make you pay return shipping. So not only did this guy probably switch cards on you, he did it completely on your dime.

[3-2-count]

This is why I do not sell on EBay.

Sorry Pete...

[mrmopar]

I do not sell at this point, but think I would like to someday and I worry about things like that. years ago, I sold for a shop and a few odd things of my own and it seemed like I always attracted a flake in every batch I sold, but it was mostly low end stuff and my issues seemed to be a lot of non-paying bidders. In the past, as a buyer, I was scammed a few times with bait/switch and non-receipt and it really pisses you off.

However, I want to believe that even though these types of situations really sting and stick in your mind, that they are the small minority of transactions.

[Snapolit1]

I have sold on EBay and 98% no bad issues. But then something rears up (usually buyer's remorse) and it's a major pain. Then again, sure people do the same thing at card shows.

[Iron Horse]

Sorry to hear that Pete.
I sold a Topps Black Chrome Lebron James PSA 10 like 2 years ago. About 48 days after the auction had ended the guy requests to send the card back. I called ebay and they said he claimed that he sent the card to BGS to have it cross. Obviously if it went into a BGS10 card would be $$$$. BGS sent it back supposedly saying card was shaved on upper border.
Had to refund him his $850. Wish i had that card now lol
ebay sucks if you are selling stuff and the buyer is not an honest or resonable person.

[ullmandds]

i kinda figured I had no recourse...still waiting to hear back from buyer. and I assume if I refuse to pay ebay would boot me over $50 right?!

[edhans]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

This is why I do not sell on EBay.

Sorry Pete...

+1

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Ebay will side with the buyer. Guaranteed...the buyer can do no wrong in ebay's eyes. Not only that, but they will also make you pay return shipping. So not only did this guy probably switch cards on you, he did it completely on your dime.

Sadly, this is true. Your best way around these problems is to do bending-over exercises each morning.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A few weeks ago? Fight it. Totally unreasonable.

Totally agree--way too long!

Best wishes,

Larry

[AGuinness]

From the sound of it, it seems like a scammer could pretty easily buy a slabbed card, say a PSA 7 1952 Topps Mantle, crack the case, replace the card with a forged/altered version, claim that it arrived damaged, return the "damaged" goods and get a refund, totally hosing the seller. Then do it over and over and over...

Doesn't eBay realize the potential for something like this to happen? Is there no recourse for sellers like this?

If a buyer returns an item but has replaced it (or kept a card or two from a larger lot), are they exposing themselves to mail fraud? That always seemed to be one of the bigger risks scam artist sellers might face if they did something like that.

I've sold a few things on eBay, but the fees really bug me, so I stopped. Never ran into a bad situation, luckily.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

From the sound of it, it seems like a scammer could pretty easily buy a slabbed card, say a PSA 7 1952 Topps Mantle, crack the case, replace the card with a forged/altered version, claim that it arrived damaged, return the "damaged" goods and get a refund, totally hosing the seller. Then do it over and over and over...

Doesn't eBay realize the potential for something like this to happen? Is there no recourse for sellers like this?

If a buyer returns an item but has replaced it (or kept a card or two from a larger lot), are they exposing themselves to mail fraud? That always seemed to be one of the bigger risks scam artist sellers might face if they did something like that.

I've sold a few things on eBay, but the fees really bug me, so I stopped. Never ran into a bad situation, luckily.

If the behavior is repetitive eBay knows this and takes action. The case you are describing just doesn't happen in my experience.