New theory regarding the T206 brown LENOX cards....show us some of these rare dudes

[egbeachley]

That's a very good theory. But maybe impossible to prove.

I'm not sure the scarcity of Cairo Monopol is relevant. They could have produced lots but the key is in the ink not being changed.

[mrvster]

plausible! great theory

[Yoda]

Ted, do you think your theory might be applicable to T207 Recruit backs with brown rather than black ink? I think it is a bit interesting this brown ink variation commands virtually no premium over its black cousin compared to the T206 brown Lenox which usually goes for a hefty number when they occasionally appear.

[sreader3]

Hi Ted,

Seems plausible. Thanks to your post I just learned that on Lenox (baseball and military) and Cairo Monopol backs there are two dots (rather than a straight line) below the "ND" in the factory district designation. Funny how many subtle differences ALC designed into these cards.

Scot

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Ted, do you think your theory might be applicable to T207 Recruit backs with brown rather than black ink? I think it is a bit interesting this brown ink variation commands virtually no premium over its black cousin compared to the T206 brown Lenox which usually goes for a hefty number when they occasionally appear.

Sorry, old buddy, but I have not given much thought to any of the variations in the T207
cards since I sold my complete set some years ago.

Perhaps someone on this forum will chime in here and provide an answer to your question.


Take care,

TED Z
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[Blitzu]

It's funny you say that Ted because I'm avid T80 collector as well and I have seen more uzit's and even blanks then I've seen of the Cairo monopols. In my opinion those are the rarest T80's, but with uzit and blanks right there too.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Blitzu

It's funny you say that Ted because I'm avid T80 collector as well and I have seen more uzit's and even blanks then I've seen of the Cairo monopols. In my opinion those are the rarest T80's, but with uzit and blanks right there too.

You're correct....but, for those here that are unfamiliar with the T80 set......

On any given day on ebay....there are 100's of T80 cards (mostly TOLSTOI) with a few LENOX and some UZIT.

Whatever, but seldom will you see a CAIRO MONOPOL or an OLD MILL for sale. If there is one, it will be selling for $500 - $1000 (if in decent condition).


TED Z
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[caramelcard]

Hi Ted,

I don't think the CM backs are the same color as the brown lenox. Cairo Monopols are more black.

CM backs are tough, but Old Mills are just as tough in my experience if not tougher.

Either way, I 100% believe that studying t80s will shed a bunch of light T206...somehow.

It's very hard to compare back scarcity across the two sets though. Tolstoi backs were arguably listed in greater numbers than even the entire T206 tolstoi population.

Again, Old Mill backs are really difficult for T80s, but we know they're a common T206 back.

And Lenox T80s aren't very hard to find. Blank backed T80s might be just as hard to locate as a blank back T206.

Anyways, great theory, but in my opinion brown lenox backs are a lot different than the color of a Cairo Monopol back.

Rob

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

That's a very good theory. But maybe impossible to prove.

I'm not sure the scarcity of Cairo Monopol is relevant. They could have produced lots but the key is in the ink not being changed.

The relevance of the scarcity of CAIRO MONOPOL (CM) cards to the scarcity of the T206 brown LENOX cards is simply a probability factor.

The short-printed T80 (CM) press runs translate to less probability of a "printer's mistake" in the application of the correct ink in the sub-
sequent press run of T206 LENOX backs.


TED Z
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