1952 Topps PSA 4 #332 Baritrome

[irv]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

Saw that too. Pretty sure the card price is driven by that one collector. I remember years back when I needed the 1953 Haddix rc to finish that set. I put ridiculous bid after ridiculous bid in for the card ... and was always the runner up because Gary Alberelli was buying that card as a key piece of the big lots he was selling on Ebay. He thought the card was a key card for the set given the huge prices they were going for. In reality, he was just stopping me from completing my set and I was bidding him through the roof on the card. I finally wrote him and asked him to let me win one, with a promise I wouldn't bid him up in the future. I think the price of the card fell 50% almost immediately!

And I agree with you. I'd short this card like crazy. Although I must admit, I'd interested in seeing how much he'd go for the red overprint version. And if folks don't know what I mean, one of the high number sheets had a run where the red on back was printed in excess, and blurred out most of the white lettering on back. I know there are about 4-5 of these still out there - including the one on Ebay that has been offered at $1,000 for a long time. This card is truly a one of a kind Bartirome card, and happens to be in nice condition. I wonder how high he would go for that!

Cheers,
Patrick

Short this card like crazy? Sorry, but does that mean underbid it or purchase as many as you could in order to shorten up supply to increase price?

I wasn't aware of the blurred white lettering so I checked mine and it appears to be OK.

Being relatively new here, I guess, I am finding out all kinds of info about the 52 Topps set, which I appreciate, but is there a site/link, info somewhere that explains all these anomalies/errors or other things about the 52 Topps set that someone fairly new to all this would find very interesting?

Curious, seeing this card graded for what it is, any idea if my card would grade the same or better, or worse? Centering is off on mine but I do believe, overall, mine is in better shape?

[Exhibitman]

I recently read the bio of Roberto Clemente and Bartirome featured prominently as the team trainer in the 1960s. If the card wasn't so expensive I'd want one just for the interesting back story. Kind of like my favorite 1970s basketball player, Slick Watts, who was short and bald in a league that was neither.

[egri]

For anyone interested, here is the thread with the guy who was trying to go Hunt Brothers on this card. Spoiler alert: he's not actually related to Bartirome, though if eBay's sold listings are any indication, that hasn't stopped him from paying obscene prices for them.

[ALR-bishop]

Irv---if you search this forum section for 1952 Topps you will find several discussion of oddities in that set


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172391

http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.co...th-two-mantles
http://aug13.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=59354

[irv]

[QUOTE=1952boyntoncollector;1494249]

Originally Posted by irv

Short this card like crazy? Sorry, but does that mean underbid it or purchase as many as you could in order to shorten up supply to increase price?

No he is saying the card is going to decrease in price...and if there was a mechanism like the stock market...where you can sell a card now at current price and agree to buy it back in the future ...you would want the future price to be much less than that you are buying it today...that's generally what he means by shorting.....

I think your card is about a psa 3-4 if you want to make anything on the card I would get it graded now and sell it..or maybe put a BIN now it for for 700 or so and see who contacts you...it is very very possible in a year your card may only be worth 75-200 bucks in the open market in a year..

Thanks for the info 1952, I appreciate it.

Going by the link and the rating this guys card received, I was thinking mine would be at least a 5, but being new to all this and unsure what exactly is used to determine a grading, I will trust that you are likely in the ballpark?
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...UAAOSwLnlWmIhS

Originally Posted by egri

For anyone interested, here is the thread with the guy who was trying to go Hunt Brothers on this card. Spoiler alert: he's not actually related to Bartirome, though if eBay's sold listings are any indication, that hasn't stopped him from paying obscene prices for them.

Holy crap!! Like what was said when I briefly opened the link, "That guy must have a lot of relatives"!

Does beg the question, if his story is fake, why is he so interested in all the 332's he can get his hands on?

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Irv---if you search this forum section for 1952 Topps you will find several discussion of oddities in that set


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172391

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172391

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172391

Thanks ALR, I will be sure to check those out,

[egri]

[QUOTE=irv;1494258]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Holy crap!! Like what was said when I briefly opened the link, "That guy must have a lot of relatives"!

Does beg the question, if his story is fake, why is he so interested in all the 332's he can get his hands on?

There was some speculation about that towards the end of the thread; if you've got a solid half hour/45 minutes free, it's worth a read. The leading theory seemed to be that 1) he was trying to corner the market on that card, and 2) cornering the market never works out.

[irv]

[QUOTE=egri;1494266]

Originally Posted by irv

There was some speculation about that towards the end of the thread; if you've got a solid half hour/45 minutes free, it's worth a read. The leading theory seemed to be that 1) he was trying to corner the market on that card, and 2) cornering the market never works out.

I never read it yet, but seeing as it is 11 pgs long, I may not, LOL.

[1952boyntoncollector]

[QUOTE=irv;1494243]Short this card like crazy? Sorry, but does that mean underbid it or purchase as many as you could in order to shorten up supply to increase price?

No he is saying the card is going to decrease in price...and if there was a mechanism like the stock market...where you can sell a card now at current price and agree to buy it back in the future ...you would want the future price to be much less than that you are buying it today...that's generally what he means by shorting.....

I think your card is about a psa 3-4 if you want to make anything on the card I would get it graded now and sell it..or maybe put a BIN now it for for 700 or so and see who contacts you...it is very very possible in a year your card may only be worth 75-200 bucks in the open market in a year..