'52 Topps Mick SGC 4 Fireworks - Hits $54,900

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

like you said each auction is different if you are considering selling a 20k+ card..why not pay the 500 or whatever to get it into a PSA holder....the only way I think SGCs get top dollar on occasion is in the open auction market where there is real risk..unless there is a hidden reserve......even if PSA doesn't agree with the grade and you get it back..so what is 500 bucks for a card that has gone up 10k in your opinion that's not a horrible risk

it real tough to get top of market value on direct deals on SGC cards in my humble opinion but sometimes that same person that offers you 20k will pay 25k in an auction setting...or if its a PSA card you have a better chance to set a new market record in a direct offer.... but I just talking generally and my opinion only

Like MattyC said it was the card not the holder in this case. There are two SGC 50s on ebay right now, one for 30k, one for 25k, and both accepting lower offers. No one has jumped on them yet, and I certainly won't be.

I would also assume that most people selling high end cards like this in SGC holders have already tried and failed to get them into PSA holders. I know I would have. But in this case it certainly didn't seem to matter. I don't think this one brings much more than 54k in a PSA 4 holder.

[Canofcorn]

All 4s aren't created equal

[Canofcorn]

It'a tough finding centered examples

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Canofcorn

It'a tough finding centered examples

I feel ya, brother. A collector who wants well-framed cards finds so many are tough to find centered-- especially Mantles. Just think of how many 52Ts, 51Bs, 53Ts, heck, all of them that we see listed everywhere...and how few are dead nuts centered. Makes the hunt and finding that rare centered card all the more satisfying and FUN!

[glynparson]

Is not the same as technical grade. Many can't understand the difference. The Herman is an older grade and irrelevant to what Peter stated which is correct.

[Jdoggs]

A nicely centered 52 topps SGC 80 mantle would cost at least $100k in this market.
A nicely centered 52 topps SGC 60 mantle would probably be at least $60k after the 52 SGC 50 Goldin auctions sale of $54.9k.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Jdoggs

A nicely centered 52 topps SGC 80 mantle would cost at least $100k in this market.
A nicely centered 52 topps SGC 60 mantle would probably be at least $60k after the 52 SGC 50 Goldin auctions sale of $54.9k.

cards dont always work that way, if one sells for less there is panic mode too......plus the high bidder on the last card is out of the market potentially on a last sale and its not like people are not seeing the auctions on these high profile cards...if the high bidder on a winning card doesn't bid on the next card up at a top market price theres always a chance of a major fall in price...of course there can be new unique bidders too. we shall see....

[begsu1013]

this price just goes to show that collectors are finally using their brains again vs completely ignoring it and being blinded or constrained simply because of what a flip says...

find me a better centered 57...

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Jdoggs

A nicely centered 52 topps SGC 80 mantle would cost at least $100k in this market.
A nicely centered 52 topps SGC 60 mantle would probably be at least $60k after the 52 SGC 50 Goldin auctions sale of $54.9k.

I agree. I see a truly dead centered PSA 5 these days as pushing up to the 75k barrier, since the 6s with such amazing eye appeal are locked in at 100k. If I am a buyer, I am looking at what a 50/50, tilt-free 6 with bold color will cost me (100k), and saying to myself, "Screw VCP, if I can pay 25k less for an equally gorgeous card, I'm doing it." Hence, a 75k "5." Again, talking only here about a specimen with rare, dead centering, equally rare zero tilt, and great color. In other words, a freak, LOL.

Fantastic 57 pictured above. Talk about eye appeal. Perhaps fewer than 1 in every 100 examples of the 57 are that well framed. With that card, between the tilt, the centering, and the various printing/image issues, finding a nice one is incredibly challenging.

[Jdoggs]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I agree. I see a truly dead centered PSA 5 these days as pushing up to the 75k barrier, since the 6s with such amazing eye appeal are locked in at 100k. If I am a buyer, I am looking at what a 50/50, tilt-free 6 with bold color will cost me (100k), and saying to myself, "Screw VCP, if I can pay 25k less for an equally gorgeous card, I'm doing it." Hence, a 75k "5." Again, talking only here about a specimen with rare, dead centering, equally rare zero tilt, and great color. In other words, a freak, LOL.

Fantastic 57 pictured above. Talk about eye appeal. Perhaps fewer than 1 in every 100 examples of the 57 are that well framed. With that card, between the tilt, the centering, and the various printing/image issues, finding a nice one is incredibly challenging.

I agree with you. A perfectly centered beautiful 52 topps mantle in PSA 5 could break the $75k barrier. An SGC 60 52 topps mantle equivalent could come close to that too.
Beautiful 52 topps mantle PSA 6's and SGC 80's are already breaking the $100k barrier most notably the recent goodwin PSA 6 sale of $133k.