Advice on a 68 Ryan/Koosman - MINSIZERQ

[Peter_Spaeth]

Does it measure correctly that is 2 1/2 by 3 1/2? that would seem the place to start?

[chaddurbin]

yes resubmit, wait for a special. being a first time submitter doesn't make a difference. i'd stick with psa if you want to resell, i might try sgc if psa fails again. this is the reason why members here don't collect high grades, you don't know its history or how many times it's been thru the grading game.

as for loupes and black lights i see alot of newbies wanting where to get one. unless you know what you're looking for (and most noobs don't) it doesn't matter how nice or the quality. you can give me an axe, but that doesn't mean i turn to paul bunyan. leave the card grading to the "professionals".

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Does it measure correctly that is 2 1/2 by 3 1/2? that would seem the place to start?

Hard to argue with that assessment. I would also grab a ruler.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I mean yeah, I don't get all the advice being given to the OP unless we know what the card measures. Put a thin ruler on it and report back. Until then all discussions about submitting here and submitting there and blah blah are premature.

[begsu1013]

"I'll be visiting him in a couple days and will be able to compare it to his other 68's just to be absolutely sure."

well i think we were all considering that he was going to do the obvious.

but if not, make sure you take breaths of air as well...

that's probably the most important step before finding a ruler!

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

"I'll be visiting him in a couple days and will be able to compare it to his other 68's just to be absolutely sure."

well i think we were all considering that he was going to do the obvious.

but if not, make sure you take breaths of air as well...

that's probably the most important step before finding a ruler!

It seems obvious, but the OP mentioned he compared the card to another issue of the same size, and did not mention measuring the card. I took that to mean he had not measured it. A ruler seems like a logical place to start.

But yes if it's been measured and checks out, or even if it didn't, I would resubmit to PSA, and even try SGC and then BVG.

The minsize note from PSA would seem to indicate that there were no signs of trimming but the card did not measure correctly. I believe this is attributed to it being miscut at the factory.

[begsu1013]

think everyone thought that measuring it was a given. even then we could be talking 1/32 of an inch.


edit: op, if it's even close resub it another time or 2. if it comes back after that, i would try to get it in a sgc slab then submit as a crossover if ya really want it in a psa holder.

it seems nice from what you have presented.

so far it's got three big things going for it:

it's authentic
it's not trimmed
it's not altered in any other way.

it would be worth the time and resources should it get in a 7 or 8 holder.

keep us updated.

[Batpig]

Just an update - compared it to several of his other 68's and it matched 90% exactly. Of the other 10%, some were slightly larger, some slightly smaller, so definitely a resub. Next time I'll be submitting it with a bunch of other stuff. I'd forgotten just how much stuff he had.

[Sidepocket]

MINSIZERQ at PSA is becoming a bad joke and they know it. As a matter of fact, yesterday I responded on their message board to someone who had an issue with it and I posted scans of 4 crackouts I sent in last fall to PSA that were all returned MINSIZERQ - and the post was deleted last night. You have to be concerned with quality control over there.

[Batpig]

Yep I'm seeing the same thing when looking around.