1968, 1969 & 1970 Topps Nolan Ryan -Sent to PSA - Post 26 PSA grades back*

[con40]

Overall, these are fair grades.

The '68 has a crimp or dent along the top edge (visible on the back of the card) and a fully dinged corner with a fold... 5 all day long.

The '70 has centering issues, a crimp or dent on the left side of the card, and some corner touches... fair at a 6, could have been a 6.5.

Not sure why the '69 is a 4. There must be a tiny bit of paper loss on it somewhere that isn't showing in your scans. That's generally too harsh a grade for a surface wrinkle.

[murphy8276]

Originally Posted by con40

Overall, these are fair grades.

The '68 has a crimp or dent along the top edge (visible on the back of the card) and a fully dinged corner with a fold... 5 all day long.

The '70 has centering issues, a crimp or dent on the left side of the card, and some corner touches... fair at a 6, could have been a 6.5.

Not sure why the '69 is a 4. There must be a tiny bit of paper loss on it somewhere that isn't showing in your scans. That's generally too harsh a grade for a surface wrinkle.

Thank you for taking a 2nd look. You were fairly similar the first time you looked although you had said the 70 had a shot at a 7 if I recall. I am tempted to send it back in, but I suppose if it will not improve value substantially it may not be worth it. I have about a dozen or so I didn't "agree" with in my submission so I have considered sending some in for review and seeing if any at all were mis-graded so I want to be selective in that and your thoughts help.

Anyone else care to chime in please feel free.

[begsu1013]

ryan fan here and the grades do seem appropriate.

biggest factor overlooked by new submitters is the surface of the card, which we can't pick up on in scans. the gloss, scratches and even a minute surface wrinkle can take a 9 or 10 to an auto 5.

i did it starting off as well. i think a lot of us have.

but the first sub always hurts.

i would not resub these as the potential payoff does not seem worth the reward.

[DBesse27]

Grades are fair. 69 has some janky corners.

[Exhibitman]

When I saw the OP w/the 1969 Ryan first thought I had was "4". I got slammed with a 4 on a 69 Jackson with similar nice presentation. The graders there are really bitchy about 1969 corners, I guess:



I'd leave the 68 and 70 in the holders; those grades are fair. The 69 presents nicer, perhaps a 5 or 5.5, but it isn't a six and I don't think going for a resub would get you more than half a grade.

[wilkiebaby11]

I agree with others, grades seem fair IMO.

68 looks sharp but the OC may have kept it from the 6.
69 looks like VG-EX corners. I thought it would get a 4 or 5.
70 looks like a 6 or 7, but hard to tell.

Like begsu said, there's a lot that the community cannot see with just scans. PSA uses loupes, so their eyes are much much better on these things. I doubt that you would get worse grades if you resubmitted them, but I dont think that you'd see much improvement on any of them either. The only card worth the risk to maybe try and resubmit would be the 68 RC.

[murphy8276]

Thanks for all the help guys. I really appreciate it.

I think I may send the 68 back in just because it seems worth it to me to give it a shot if PSA does indeed upgrade cards through review, but after hearing responses I agree with the grades on the other two so will sell as is.

Follow up - Is it always best to crack out and resubmit or are there success stories with getting a full point + on a review?


On the PSA 4 (1969 Ryan), does it sell higher graded the 4 or Raw? And what are everyone's thoughts on cracking out a subbed card to list it for sale? Is it considered any bit of deception or is it common practice and you've all done it?


Exhibit man, send that Jackson back in man--what a ripoff grade IMO. I have a worse looking 5.

[begsu1013]

do not attempt to crack that 68 ryan if it's your first attempt.

buy a bunch of cheap whatever cards that are in the new holder and practice first. again, the new holder. older ones were quite easy.