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Old 02-18-2016, 05:26 AM
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The struggle is real . As a seller I'm never bothered by a offer . It's like going fishing and hooking a fish . You don't know if it's a keeper until its all said and done . Really nobody should use a bin if your not willing to go for less. I hate when I put a offer in and they don't respond . Are you not trying to make a sale ? Do you not know how this dance goes ?

I just went through this last week and it's becoming a problem . I made a going price offer on a card . It gets declined, long story short the seller wanted full price . Wtf is wrong with you ? All day I was making offers and sending messages !
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:42 AM
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I made a going price offer on a card . It gets declined, long story short the seller wanted full price . Wtf is wrong with you ? All day I was making offers and sending messages !
That also gets on my nerves!
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:55 AM
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Set the automatic decline at your minimum and you never even see the low offers.

I don't post an item with best offer unless I am willing to drop at least 10% from the price. That's about the fair threshold. So I don't think the OP was out of line with a floor of 90% of BIN.

I know there is some scoffing at small dollar haggling but It does add up. If I am working a set and I can knock off 10% of every card that could be like getting 70 cards for free. As a seller if I can eke out an extra 10% on every card from buyers who will buy a BIN at 90% if I set the floor there instead of lower I can pay for my National trip with the extra 10%.

Sometimes it makes sense to offer a very low % of BIN. Recently I saw a card listed at $1000 that might fetch $200 in auction. I offered $200 for it. Declined of course. I will now watch the card relist forever. One well known dealer has a card I watched for years. Tough card but not 1/1 and way overpriced as compared to similar items at auction. I offered a fair price and was rejected. A few years ago one surfaced at auction and I got it for about my offer. dealer still has the other card. I was the market and I'm out. So long as it is priced where he wants it the card will never sell. Has to be about seven or eight years since I offered on it.

I don't understand the business model of holding inventory for years but to each his own.

ETA: This thread is an example of the damage Mastro and Allen did. I am convinced that some of the prices we see on eBay are the spawn of shill bidding setting unrealistic price expectations.
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Old 02-18-2016, 07:43 AM
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I read all comments and found them all interesting perspectives. Each of us have our own and they are all right. I help out in an antique shop where we have a basement where everything is half price. Dealers can put items they have had in their booths for awhile and want to reduce inventory down there marked 1/2 off. I can not tell you how many times people have come up and asked to reduce the price even more. My point? I think we are looking at todays economy and the box stores reducing inventory by offering up to 75% off. People think that extends to all facets of the world, including EBay. I always am looking for a deal and, when I run across a card I want and it says OBO - I will counter once with what I am willing to pay. If accepted, fine, if not, fine. Just my opinion and we all have them.
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Old 02-18-2016, 11:53 AM
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I have a lot of BIN's with best offer. A $40 offer for a $50 card is very reasonable and I would accept it every time.

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Old 02-18-2016, 11:58 AM
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There are always people looking to get a steal and unfortunately, that means low ball offers. Whenever I list BIN's with BO, usually half of the listings that get activity, I get some ridiculous offers...it comes with the territory of giving people an option to make your own price up. I will say that some people do get steals this way, so my advice is not to let it bother you and just respectfully decline and move on. And no, you're not missing anything or doing anything wrong
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:08 PM
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The struggle is real . As a seller I'm never bothered by a offer . It's like going fishing and hooking a fish . You don't know if it's a keeper until its all said and done . Really nobody should use a bin if your not willing to go for less. I hate when I put a offer in and they don't respond . Are you not trying to make a sale ? Do you not know how this dance goes ?

I just went through this last week and it's becoming a problem . I made a going price offer on a card . It gets declined, long story short the seller wanted full price . Wtf is wrong with you ? All day I was making offers and sending messages !
This bothers me as well. I have also seen sellers turn down 90-95% of there asking price. If you won't accept an offer of 90%, why have that option? Very frustrating.
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Old 02-19-2016, 12:11 AM
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Typically, when I first list something it's as a BIN. If it doesn't sell after thirty days I add an OBO. Sometimes I get really low offers for things I sell and my response is always the same, I counter offer at full price. If they were serious they'd send you a serious offer. Selling an item for $200 and offering me $80 is not a serious offer; same as offering $20 on a $50 item. If you want it, act like it and offer accordingly. Don't expect a handout, you don't deserve what I have. You have to buy it at a fair price. That $200 item I had? Sold it for $170.

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Old 02-19-2016, 06:49 AM
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I find nothing wrong with submitting a low ball offer on a card, and if its rejected..come up a little on next offer

Like someone said....you ever walk around a card show with a complete 60s set your looking to sell...the prices people offer you are also low ball....you say no..and move on
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:10 AM
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This is coming strictly from a personal perspective as a buyer, not a seller, since all of my dealings on eBay have been just that as a buyer. First, there are so many scenarios, but I'll list two; the seller has a ridiculous price for something w/a BO (tons of those out there at least for what I collect) and I don't even bother negotiating or placing an offer and/or the seller has an item that is high, but not terribly unreasonable in which I will place an offer. Typically in this scenario I'll offer a price lower than I'd ultimately pay and if they accept fine and if not I can go higher, but I will not buy an item for more than I feel the item is worth.

Ultimately there are all types, both good and bad, in regard to sellers and buyers. I don't think there is a one fit answer for these type of questions. I would think that the buyer always wants to get an item for the least amount possible and the buyer wants to get as high as possible; don't think this will ever change.
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:30 PM
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This bothers me as well. I have also seen sellers turn down 90-95% of there asking price. If you won't accept an offer of 90%, why have that option? Very frustrating.
That has happened to me multiple times.

Just recently I offered $380.00 on a $440.00 BIN; the seller countered with "$430.00 is the lowest I can accept."

Ridiculous.
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That has happened to me multiple times.

Just recently I offered $380.00 on a $440.00 BIN; the seller countered with "$430.00 is the lowest I can accept."

Ridiculous.
Yea I just don't get it. Even if I was willing to pay 430 for that card I would not buy it from that seller out of principle. I don't like dealing with unreasonable people. I would pay more elsewhere for peace of mind.
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