Bryce Harper

RTK · #1 03-13-2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Centauri

If the Nats are tired of Harper, well my Indians would happily take him off your hands.

Harper is great for the sport, same for Bautista - that bat flip will become legendary. We need more color, not less.

...but at what point does it stop? I see it as catering to the lowest common denominator audience wise. Football is the worst. It isn't good enough to just celebrate touch downs, you have to celebrate every tackle, no matter the score of the game or it's situation. I see once the emotional celebrations are in the game guys will be celebrating everything to make ESPN highlights, Twitter and Facebook and just like football they'll practice celebrations to the point of correography. Walk up songs are bad enough.

Louieman · #2 03-13-2016, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RTK

...but at what point does it stop? I see it as catering to the lowest common denominator audience wise. Football is the worst. It isn't good enough to just celebrate touch downs, you have to celebrate every tackle, no matter the score of the game or it's situation. I see once the emotional celebrations are in the game guys will be celebrating everything to make ESPN highlights, Twitter and Facebook and just like football they'll practice celebrations to the point of correography. Walk up songs are bad enough.

I don't think it's fair to equate younger people and our use of technology as some form of narcissistic pandering to the lowest common denominator. It's just different, and it's a reflection of our technology, and our differences to the previous generation....which I believe has been happening since, ya know, the beginning of civilization.

That being said, Mike Trout, Andrew McCutchen and Buster Posey are only a few years older than Bryce Harper. They carry themselves completely differently on the field. Yet they are still part of the same generation. My point is that I don't think Bryce is wrong when he says we should modernize the game. But my other point is that Bryce is a douchebag and so it's hard to take his thoughts seriously when he sets such a douchey example for the rest of his generation.

chaddurbin · #3 03-13-2016, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RTK

...but at what point does it stop? I see it as catering to the lowest common denominator audience wise. Football is the worst. It isn't good enough to just celebrate touch downs, you have to celebrate every tackle, no matter the score of the game or it's situation. I see once the emotional celebrations are in the game guys will be celebrating everything to make ESPN highlights, Twitter and Facebook and just like football they'll practice celebrations to the point of correography. Walk up songs are bad enough.

football players are literally killing themselves out there for your entertainment, they get into multiple car wrecks every week...if they want to do a little celebration after a play because they didn't break their neck then more power to them.

color me shock that on a primarily pre-ww1 baseball board people are oppose to the rich, spoiled, out of touch modern superstar who wants to make the game more fun for everyone. let's go to the beckett super refractor board for their thoughts...i'm sure their opinions mirror this board.

Beastmode · #4 03-13-2016, 09:16 PM

There's a becket super refractor board?

packs · #5 03-14-2016, 02:48 PM

Everyone keeps bringing up Bautista. Does no one remember why he flipped his bat? He'd just given his team the go-ahead and eventual lead that would send them into the ALCS and have him playing for the pennant. If you can't celebrate that, what can you celebrate? It wasn't just some routine homer in a mid-June game.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 03-14-2016, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

Everyone keeps bringing up Bautista. Does no one remember why he flipped his bat? He'd just given his team the go-ahead and eventual lead that would send them into the ALCS and have him playing for the pennant. If you can't celebrate that, what can you celebrate? It wasn't just some routine homer in a mid-June game.

I am a traditionalist but I have no issue with the bat flip, I thought it was pretty cool actually. An exclamation point.

irishdenny · #7 03-14-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

Everyone keeps bringing up Bautista. Does no one remember why he flipped his bat? He'd just given his team the go-ahead and eventual lead that would send them into the ALCS and have him playing for the pennant. If you can't celebrate that, what can you celebrate? It wasn't just some routine homer in a mid-June game.

Yeah Buddy...
If You Watched that game, & I did!
You would of been Well Entertained, fur sure!

The Most Screwed up inning I've Ever Laid Eyes On!!!

That Bat Flip was Completed Warranted... In the Moment Aye!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofS09rcM-_Q

packs · #8 03-14-2016, 03:38 PM

Why isn't anyone scolding Hank Aaron for his absurd, showboating trot after he hit 715? Or how about when McGwire broke Maris' record and hugged his family? Don't these people have class. Or what about that ridiculous trot Ripken took around the field when he broke Gehrig's record? Enough already, prima donna, we're playing a game here!

The point I'm trying to make is that in my opinion it's perfectly fine to celebrate a moment worth celebrating and it's usually easy to tell when those moments happen. If you can't celebrate those moments, what can you celebrate? There should be some wiggle room and I agree no one wants to see baseball devolve into football, but a little fun never hurt anyone either.

JustCollectVP · #9 03-14-2016, 04:49 PM

Not much showboating in the NHL, but then again, you can't knock someone's teeth out and get just a five minute timeout in the other sports.

The "look-at-me" generation takes their cue from ESPN.

Personally, I don't understand why a basketball team doesn't take advantage of the 5 on 4 while Slamakahn Dunker is mugging for the camera.

If you want to stop the WR from gesturing 1st Down, stop him short of the marker. Want Cam to stop doing the Dab, keep him out of the endzone (see Denver).

Reggie Jackson hotdogged it. He sat a few times, too.

I miss the days when baseball used to be able to police itself. Too many ESPN-primadonnas feel that they progress their manhood and have to rush the mound or pop off when they get old-schooled. Bring back Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale and Willie Mays. And there was fun, too. Willie Montenez and Tito Fuentes certainly cut the pie.

Mariano Rivera, Derek Jeter, Paul Goldschmidt and Mike Trout certainly show(ed) that you can still play the game and can be exuberant without taking it over the top.

But that's just MOO (my opinion only) and YMMV (your mileage may vary).

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