Which is a tougher T206 back, Uzit or Drum?

[JerryTotino]

Leon,

Yes I consider a master set collector to be someone going after a 5,000+ T206 set. I agree that you will not find many that fit into this category, but in the case of Drum backs it will only take one.

I took another quick look at the current PSA and SGC pop reports for the Drum back.

PSA = 121 total (approximately 73 have a pop = 1)

SGC = 84 total (approximately 65 have a pop = 1)

Total graded Drum pop = 205 (138 total with a pop of 1).

Thus, 67% of the total graded Drum population have a pop of only 1.

If only 1 master set collector has the resources/opportunity to obtain all the pop 1 Drums then a total of 138 cards (67%) will be in that collection. That doesn't even include the Drums with a pop > 1 that this collector will also need to add to that collection.

To me it is fairly clear why there can be so much pressure placed on the prices for Drums. The master set collector can possibly remove an extremely large % of population from the market creating even more demand from the remainder of the collecting community.

Thanks,

Jerry

[pokerplyr80]

Is anyone on this site going after a master set, or does anyone know someone who is? Any idea how close someone is, or has come?

That would be quite the achievement to even come close.

[Sean]

David Hall is trying for one. I believe that he's 95% of the way there.

[MVSNYC]

Leon et al- there are several collectors working on master sets. One name was mentioned already, and there's at least one other person I know who's going for it, he posts here regularly.

PS- regarding which is tuffer, Drum or Uzit, I'll say this, I've been collecting T206 for 25 years, I've owned 2 BL460's, 4 Uzits and 5 Drums.

[Tao_Moko]

I have collected "raw" for 31 years now and know that I'm not alone. I would be more interested in a sample population of these backs, ungraded, from our own forum to compare to the pop reports. I believe that the results would show Uzit edging out Drum as the tougher back. The last Uzit I recall was at auction last year - it was Al Burch and the condition was just how you like them. Thinking it was NM and sold for $12k.

[DerekMichael]

I have actively sought out both Drum and Uzit for a handful of years now, maybe 6 or so. That is not too long at all, but I have owned 3 Drum's and 6 Uzit's in that time.

Although there are a great many people here who are in favor of Uzit being the tougher back, and they may well be correct, I personally have found that is much tougher to trade for or a lot more expensive to acquire the Drum backs, and that they have been much further out of my reach than the Uzit, which is also extremely tough.

My vote is that Drum is the tougher of the two.

[ullmandds]

So there was an alterior motive after all.