Pwcc

[Pilot172000]

I have one left on there for tomorrow at 9:30. If I don't win it, oh well. I would rather someone on this board get my money for something else that I feel is a good deal than impulse bid up a card that I maxed bid the first time.

[CMIZ5290]

Just curious, have we ever had a thread pertaining PWCC?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Just curious, have we ever had a thread pertaining PWCC?

Mr I love everything PSA does and hate everything about SGC,


if we eliminated all recurring/repeating threads...there'd be no board!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Mr I love everything PSA does and hate everything about SGC,


if we eliminated all recurring/repeating threads...there'd be no board!

Fair enough, point taken...

[iowadoc77]

Attempted bids that I thought would be actually right where auctions should be ending and already outbid. If I would have tried to sell them on eBay they would have gone for a fraction of the price. Grrrrrrr.
Need to hire some shillers I guess

[JeremyW]

There is a N172 OJ Harry Wright currently listed by PWCC that was also sold by PWCC back in February for $3,800. Yesterday I sent PWWC a message asking what happened. I don't know if I'll get an answer or not, but the response, or lack there of, should tell me all I need to know. Sorry for outing the auction to anyone who was interested in bidding.

[pokerplyr80]

I'm watching and bidding on more lots than I can ever remember in a pwcc auction. Lots of nice Mantles and some HOF RCS I've been looking for.

[ls7plus]

My two experiences with PWCC have been quite satisfactory, winning a '39 V351 Williams rookie and a '68-'70 Partridge Meats Bench for well under my maximum bids. Small sample size, I know, but just sayin.

Best regards to all,

Larry

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

My two experiences with PWCC have been quite satisfactory, winning a '39 V351 Williams rookie and a '68-'70 Partridge Meats Bench for well under my maximum bids. Small sample size, I know, but just sayin.

Best regards to all,

Larry

Thanks Larry, maybe you can PM Pete U. and share the news with him....

[sjim8660]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

My two experiences with PWCC have been quite satisfactory, winning a '39 V351 Williams rookie and a '68-'70 Partridge Meats Bench for well under my maximum bids. Small sample size, I know, but just sayin.

Best regards to all,

Larry

I have had some decent experiences with PWCC also, I think the guy that runs it is legit but the people the consign are the ones who run the auctions up.

[Jeff1970Red]

All 3 are bid up to the same number by the same bidder IDs. Coincidental?

[ls7plus]

Just set a realistic maximum bid reflecting what you believe is the real value of the card (and if you are value-oriented, with consideration of the upside and downside potential for appreciation/depreciation), stick with that, and you won't get cheated. If you get it fine, if you don't, you haven't lost anything except a single opportunity to acquire a desired card (in most, though not all cases, there will be others forthcoming in the future). It really is that simple, unless you think you're entitled to a bargain well below what you believe is actual market value. If you're not successful in acquiring the cards you want that way, perhaps your appraisal of real market value is inaccurate.

Just MHO and self-imposed bidding restrictions,

Larry

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Jeff1970Red

All 3 are bid up to the same number by the same bidder IDs. Coincidental?

I have relatively low feedback, 150 or so on ebay, and a high percentage with pwcc if you look me up. I will occasionally place a bid on similar or identical cards that I know won't win just so the cards show up in my bidding feed. Easier to see on my phone. This kind of activity isn't always indicative of fraud or shill bidding even though it looks suspicious.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Jeff1970Red

All 3 are bid up to the same number by the same bidder IDs. Coincidental?

I'm actually thinking this might be a bidding strategy by some folks. A while ago, I was bidding on two 1975 Topps complete sets being auctioned by PWCC. I sniped both of them, and ended up being the underbidder for both of them. I checked the bid history for both sets, and I saw that I lost to the same bidder for both of them. The very next day, I received a second chance offer for one of the sets. Of course, not wanting to have been possibly shilled up, I declined.

I have no proof or evidence or anything. However, in that case, I have the feeling that the same bidder who won both 1975 sets in my case decided he only wanted one of them, and picked the one he liked better. Then he basically became a nonpaying bidder on the other set.

So my feeling is that some bidders actually think this is okay: I'll put my max bids on all of these cards that I want even though they are the same. If I win multiple ones, I'll pick the one that I like most, and then either retract my bids on the auctions for the same card still ongoing or become nonpaying bidders on those cards I don't want. Again, I have no real evidence of this, but seeing this post reminded me of that past incident for me.

[ajquigs]

There's a bunch of low value cards in this auction that I have set up in Gavelsnipe.com. That is very unusual for me with PWCC.
I guess I have to hope no one is using Gavelshill.com on those cards.