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Old 04-20-2016, 08:59 PM
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My first thought was the opposite: that Ron was trolling Goldin. Can you point me to one actual incident of Ken using intimidation on someone here? I asked about the C&D letters in another thread and nobody responded.
I don't think Ron was trolling based on what he had written. I think Ron had legitimate points. Of course I cannot point to an actual incident where anyone was directly intimidated but there were 5 different people who removed their posts on the Ruth mitt thread and now Ron removed his comments on this thread. And anyone getting a love letter from a lawyer is going to go away quietly and not going to post the letter citing it as the reason they deleted their posts.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:03 PM
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I don't think Ron was trolling based on what he had written. I think Ron had legitimate points. Of course I cannot point to an actual incident where anyone was directly intimidated but there were 5 different people who removed their posts on the Ruth mitt thread and now Ron removed his comments on this thread. And anyone getting a love letter from a lawyer is going to go away quietly and not going to post the letter citing it as the reason they deleted their posts.
Looks like we were typing at the same time. Regarding the intimidation, could be. Since I'm the type who would call Ken (or Chris Ivy, or whomever) directly instead of slinging innuendo, I guess I don't think that way. I'm too direct.

As for Ron, I made my thoughts clear in the Ruth Mitt thread. (Ron, if you read this, feel free to email me if I've gotten your motives wrong!)
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:23 PM
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Looks like we were typing at the same time. Regarding the intimidation, could be. Since I'm the type who would call Ken (or Chris Ivy, or whomever) directly instead of slinging innuendo, I guess I don't think that way. I'm too direct.

As for Ron, I made my thoughts clear in the Ruth Mitt thread. (Ron, if you read this, feel free to email me if I've gotten your motives wrong!)
I too am direct but if differences cannot be worked out I do not see harm in raising issue here too. It happens all the time on the board. What is unusual is for people to suddenly go back and remove their entire posts. That is very troubling to me.
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:28 AM
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I too am direct but if differences cannot be worked out I do not see harm in raising issue here too. It happens all the time on the board. What is unusual is for people to suddenly go back and remove their entire posts. That is very troubling to me.
I agree, which is another reason I believe Ron to have been a troll. I've gotten harsh with AH, called out sellers, etc. Many have, yet no "threats," if that's what they were. I'm right here and real. I assume you are right there and real. Yet when someone adds nothing but flames, I don't believe they're in it for the hobby, I don't believe they're "real." YOU'VE come down hard on Goldin, right? Yet there are numerous other threads where you are adding to society, you have something intelligent to add. And you haven't gotten threatened, right?
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I don't think Ron was trolling based on what he had written. I think Ron had legitimate points. Of course I cannot point to an actual incident where anyone was directly intimidated but there were 5 different people who removed their posts on the Ruth mitt thread and now Ron removed his comments on this thread. And anyone getting a love letter from a lawyer is going to go away quietly and not going to post the letter citing it as the reason they deleted their posts.
If I get a letter I will be happy to post it.
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i was there way in the outfield,,have ticket stub to prove it ..it was magic ,,,thats all i have to say ,,,
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I'm ok with edits after a certain point after your initial post. But this is a prime example of how people aren't held accountable for their actions.

It looks so cowardly when ppl delete their posts.
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I'm ok with edits after a certain point after your initial post. But this is a prime example of how people aren't held accountable for their actions.

It looks so cowardly when ppl delete their posts.
Easier to delete posts rather than hire a lawyer to defend your position.
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Old 04-23-2016, 08:08 PM
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As I suspected, Ron deleted his posts here and on the Ruth mitt thread, because he was threatened by Goldin's lawyer. If you are going to question an item in Goldin's auction or question his ethics, you had better be prepared to lawyer up.
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