Does Everyone Understand Pre-War?

kevinlenane · #1 04-22-2016, 06:47 AM

My bad on the 51 Topps thread - I kind of assumed (wrongly) that near war discussion topics happened here since there isn't another highly trafficked page for this. Anyway, you have my solemn pledge to not violate the pre-war date again. Now, is it 39 when the war began or 41 when the US entered?

ZachS · #2 04-22-2016, 07:05 AM

Prince was definitely post-war

Beastmode · #3 04-22-2016, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachS

Prince was definitely post-war

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Beastmode · #4 04-22-2016, 11:53 AM

Viewers as of now:

Prewar 135
Post war 24
modern 2 (I think these guys are over on Blowout/PSA)

I don't collect pre-war myself and seldom click on those threads (Breaking news, another T206 "show em if you got em" thread just showed up). However, I do find lots of useful information on collecting in general and enjoy the topics that cover all eras.

I've posted several times on this forum, but don't recall if any of my subjects have ever been pre-war. So I'll continue to loiter in this forum unless otherwise asked to leave.

begsu1013 · #5 04-22-2016, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachS

Prince was definitely post-war

buymycards · #6 04-22-2016, 12:26 PM

Well, I guess what I don't understand is this - If you are posting about a 1954 Aaron RC, why would you NOT put it in the post war area? Why would you put it in the prewar area? If you are posting about a 1983 Gwynn RC, what would make you think that it belongs on the main page of a prewar forum rather than in the 1980's area?

As long as I am venting, why is there so much eBay spam on the BST? There is a section for eBay auctions. Don't post your eBay spam in other areas of the BST.

There- I feel better now.

Where do I post my Beanie Babies?

rats60 · #7 04-22-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kevinlenane

My bad on the 51 Topps thread - I kind of assumed (wrongly) that near war discussion topics happened here since there isn't another highly trafficked page for this. Anyway, you have my solemn pledge to not violate the pre-war date again. Now, is it 39 when the war began or 41 when the US entered?

Prewar should be 1941 and earlier signifying a semi regular production of sets up to 1941 and then a complete stop because of war rationing from 1942-45 and then not really picking up again until 1948.

Leon · #8 04-22-2016, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rats60

Prewar should be 1941 and earlier signifying a semi regular production of sets up to 1941 and then a complete stop because of war rationing from 1942-45 and then not really picking up again until 1948.

Personally, I think of pre-war as 1945 and back.....so for me it's pre-end of wwII...... no one will get a thread moved posting a baseball card from 1945 and back....

Rookiemonster · #9 04-22-2016, 09:45 AM

There has been a lot of wars .so I like to think that pre war refers to the gulf war. So keep the posts coming.

irv · #10 04-22-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

There has been a lot of wars .so I like to think that pre war refers to the gulf war. So keep the posts coming.

LOL. I thought it was the ongoing, continuous war currently against isis, or has that officially been declared as a war yet?

In all seriousness, having been, and currently being a moderator on a couple other non sport card forums, I know what some are talking about.

I try to do my best by not posting here very often as I currently have no post war cards, but I do read this section and have noticed, imo, where it is appropriate, like the Beaters thread, to post something that isn't pre war.

I guess, going forward, if a thread like the beaters thread is posted and it bothers some, then the OP should state, pre-war only beaters in their thread title, but at the same time, I think that is being petty and bordering on ridiculousness. (jmo)

ashes13 · #11 04-22-2016, 10:22 AM

As a true collector of baseball cards (and football and basketball cards) since I was 5 years old (I am 46 now) who enjoys and collects everything from t206s, Colgans Chips,American Caramels,Tattoo Orbits, 33-41 Goudeys, 1950s Topps, Regionals, food issues, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, all the way up to picking up current day rookie cards and packs of modern day cards (still enjoy cracking a box of 2016 topps or heritage at the start of the new season just like a kid back in 1970s and 1980s), I never quite understood how long time and real"baseball card" collectors collect ONLY pre-war or ONLY post war cards. While I can understand from time to time focusing on just an era, or just a few sets or just a player, perhaps I am in the minority, but i enjoy reading about someone's 1914 Cracker Jack pick ups as much as I like hearing about someone's 1975 Topps set. I enjoy buying a 1955 Topps Koufax rookie as much as buying a 1935 Zeenut. Pardon my ignorance, but I would be curious to hear from those who collect only pre-war, what makes a thread on 1941 Playballs so much more interesting than a thread on 1948 Bowmans or 1951 Topps Team cards? Or is it as simple as "this is the location for pre-war topics and I don't want to see or read anything about a card issued 3 years after the war ended because there is a post-war forum for that." To those pre-war only collectors, maybe seeing a thread about a 1954 Kaline rookie, is like me visiting a message board site to discuss baseball cards only to see a number of threads on women's shoes or how to cook a quiche? To me, when you get right down to it, as my wife reminds me "cards from any era are still just little photos or renderings of men on pieces of cardboard" yet we strangely all collect and treasure and pay handsomely for these pieces of cardboard with pictures of men on them.

glchen · #12 04-22-2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ashes13

... I never quite understood how long time and real"baseball card" collectors collect ONLY pre-war or ONLY post war cards. ....

I somehow think of it more as "Pre-Topps" (or pre-Bowman) for prewar. Once Topps came around, many collectors just focused on Topps set runs, but is the bulk of their collection. "Prewar" collectors typically have a bunch of different regional issues (unless you're only focused on T206), so there really isn't the concept of set runs for prewar collectors.

Orioles1954 · #13 04-22-2016, 11:05 AM

Growing up, everyone collected everything. Nineteenth Century, pre-war, modern, regionals, oddball. If they depicted a baseball player, it was cherished.

Cozumeleno · #14 04-22-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ashes13

I never quite understood how long time and real"baseball card" collectors collect ONLY pre-war or ONLY post war cards. .

I think it's quite easy to do that, actually, and still be a 'real' collector. When I was a kid, I collected only cards from my time period. Nothing before 1986 really mattered much to me because 1. I couldn't afford it and 2. Couldn't identify with many of the players. Plus, none of my friends collected older stuff, either.

When I got a little older, I still collected newer stuff, but started collecting vintage, too. I started with 1948 Bowman and sort of worked my way backwards. A few years ago, I started collecting vintage exclusively. Now, I'm only collecting pre-war. Outside of doing some flipping, I have zero interest in collecting newer stuff at all - that includes even vintage post-war stuff like 1950s stuff. It's all fine, but I just don't have any personal interest in it anymore.

Tastes change - particularly as we get older. To me, you can be a very real card collector and only collect a certain niche while ignoring everything else.

I should add, too, that I think you were correct in your assessment of the pre-war/post-war sections - I think to some people, it's a matter of just wanting to keep those areas separate.

h2oya311 · #15 04-22-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Personally, I think of pre-war as 1945 and back.....so for me it's pre-end of wwII...... no one will get a thread moved posting a baseball card from 1945 and back....

I guess I can't show off both of these in the same thread then...poop!

Or these...double poop!

Bored5000 · #16 04-22-2016, 10:10 AM

I don't think it is a big deal to have pop culture threads like the death of Prince on the main board or other occasional threads that are not strictly pre-war. It's really that much of a hardship to skip over threads you are not interested in?

IMO, it is less of a nuisance to have threads like that on the main board than it is to have the same constant threads about PWCC/Probstein or the same theme recycled over and over again that eBay sucks. I would rather at least read something new rather than the same topic(s) rehashed continuously.

Edd*e Sm*th.

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