1970s Fleer Decals & Baseball Quiz Card Info Wanted

[ALR-bishop]

There are two versions of the baseball fact cards, which I tend to keep separate from the quiz cards. Baseball fact cards with Save All 19 in red are much tougher than the blacks. I have the Mets black but still need the Mets red, but here is an example



Darn you Troy...now I need another Mets Quiz card---the RBI card with a red Mets

Fortunately there was one on ebay :-)

[Fleerfan]

In reading through this thread, it looks like I've got some work to do updating The Fleer Sticker Project on the quiz card variations! Thanks to all of you for referring to the site - its good to see comments from a number of you (Barry, Troy, & Dave) who have provided information and scans for various posts over the years.

As for the question regarding the white vs. yellow quiz cards, I don't think we can definitely answer that question until someone finds an unopened pack of Baseball Decals. I have a suspicion that the white quiz cards may have been included with the Decals, based solely on the fact that the decals are much harder to find than the cloth patches from this time, and the white quiz cards are similarly less common than the yellow cards. As has been pointed out, the decals had to come out no earlier than 1972 given the inclusion of the Texas Rangers, which likely would have been around the same time that the 1972 Cloth Patches came out which did include the yellow quiz cards.

With regards to the variations in the 1969-1971 quiz cards with the team logos that Troy mentioned, I think I have tracked down all the variations with different questions. The variations that Troy posted match up with what I have for the Mets.

From what I've been able to determine, there are no variations in the 1969 cards (smaller logo) , but for the 1970 set (larger logo with 2 questions) there are 2 sets of questions for the Orioles, Twins, Mets, and Braves, and for the 1971 set (larger logo with 3 questions), there are 2 sets of questions for the Orioles, A's, Mets, and Reds. I will try to post pictures here when I get a chance, and update the blog as well.

In the meantime, here is a picture of the Baseball Decals box (but alas no unopened packs):

[Leon]

Great info and welcome aboard. Welcome to BJI too.....took 6 yrs but you finally posted. Hopefully it won't be 6 more before you post again. We need more knowledge on the board. Thanks again to everyone in this thread. It's been very informative.

Originally Posted by Fleerfan

In reading through this thread, it looks like I've got some work to do updating The Fleer Sticker Project on the quiz card variations! Thanks to all of you for referring to the site - its good to see comments from a number of you (Barry, Troy, & Dave) who have provided information and scans for various posts over the years.

As for the question regarding the white vs. yellow quiz cards, I don't think we can definitely answer that question until someone finds an unopened pack of Baseball Decals. I have a suspicion that the white quiz cards may have been included with the Decals, based solely on the fact that the decals are much harder to find than the cloth patches from this time, and the white quiz cards are similarly less common than the yellow cards. As has been pointed out, the decals had to come out no earlier than 1972 given the inclusion of the Texas Rangers, which likely would have been around the same time that the 1972 Cloth Patches came out which did include the yellow quiz cards.

With regards to the variations in the 1969-1971 quiz cards with the team logos that Troy mentioned, I think I have tracked down all the variations with different questions. The variations that Troy posted match up with what I have for the Mets.

From what I've been able to determine, there are no variations in the 1969 cards (smaller logo) , but for the 1970 set (larger logo with 2 questions) there are 2 sets of questions for the Orioles, Twins, Mets, and Braves, and for the 1971 set (larger logo with 3 questions), there are 2 sets of questions for the Orioles, A's, Mets, and Reds. I will try to post pictures here when I get a chance, and update the blog as well.

In the meantime, here is a picture of the Baseball Decals box (but alas no unopened packs):

[cardinalcollector]

Originally Posted by Fleerfan

In reading through this thread, it looks like I've got some work to do updating The Fleer Sticker Project on the quiz card variations! Thanks to all of you for referring to the site - its good to see comments from a number of you (Barry, Troy, & Dave) who have provided information and scans for various posts over the years.

As for the question regarding the white vs. yellow quiz cards, I don't think we can definitely answer that question until someone finds an unopened pack of Baseball Decals. I have a suspicion that the white quiz cards may have been included with the Decals, based solely on the fact that the decals are much harder to find than the cloth patches from this time, and the white quiz cards are similarly less common than the yellow cards. As has been pointed out, the decals had to come out no earlier than 1972 given the inclusion of the Texas Rangers, which likely would have been around the same time that the 1972 Cloth Patches came out which did include the yellow quiz cards.

With regards to the variations in the 1969-1971 quiz cards with the team logos that Troy mentioned, I think I have tracked down all the variations with different questions. The variations that Troy posted match up with what I have for the Mets.

From what I've been able to determine, there are no variations in the 1969 cards (smaller logo) , but for the 1970 set (larger logo with 2 questions) there are 2 sets of questions for the Orioles, Twins, Mets, and Braves, and for the 1971 set (larger logo with 3 questions), there are 2 sets of questions for the Orioles, A's, Mets, and Reds. I will try to post pictures here when I get a chance, and update the blog as well.

In the meantime, here is a picture of the Baseball Decals box (but alas no unopened packs):

Its also great to get input from Fleerfan. He has a very well researched blog that helped my collection a ton.

[ALR-bishop]

Agreed on both

[toppcat]

Hey Jon-welcome!

[OlderTheBetter]

Originally Posted by cardinalcollector

its also great to get input from fleerfan. He has a very well researched blog that helped my collection a ton.

+1000

[OlderTheBetter]

Well I lied. I only have 27 different white background Baseball Quiz cards.

Some have errors and some are just very vaguely worded.

Each has four questions; shown are the first and last question on each card:

1 Who was the famous manager of the Philadelphia Athletics?
1 Who introduced the curve ball?

2 Who was the first first US president to throw out the first ball?
2 when was the frist time both teams in the world series wee from the same city?

3 Who was the second player to be inducted into the hall of fame?
3 What stadium has the deepest center-field in the American league?

4 Who was the second player to be inducted into the hall of fame?
4 Who played in the most World Series?

5 Who was the famous manager of the Giants from 1902 to 1932?
5 Babe Ruth has what two nicknames?

6 Who was the famous manager of the Giants from 1902 to 1932?
6 What was the first professional team?

7 Who makes the oficial baseball for the American League?
7 What position did Lou Gehrig play?

8 Who makes the oficial baseball for the American League?
8 Who are the two Yankees who have their uniform numbers retired?

9 What cities were represented in the first world series?
9 On opening day how many players are allowed on their active list?

10 What cities were represented in the first world series?
10 What is the fewest hits made by both clubs in one game?

11 What player created or equalled the most major league records?
11 When was the first World series?

12 What two national league pitchers share the record fo rmost 20 game winning seasons?
12 What team won the national league pennant in 1967?

13 What two national league pitchers share the record fo rmost 20 game winning seasons?
13 When did the Mets join the national league?

14 What was the first team to win six World Championships?
14 What pitcher pitched the mos consecutive shutout innings?

15 What was the first team to win six World Championships?
15 When was the world series first shown on TV?

16 Whast national league player won batting championships over the longest period of time?
16 When was the first professioal league formed?

17 In what year did Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs?
17 When a batted ball drops saely into shallow centerfield, what is it called?

18 In what year did Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs?
18 What pitcher holds the best World series record?

19 What american league club has produced more than twice the number of batting champs?
19 What switch hitter hit the most home runs in any one season?
(card incorrectly states 52 by Mantle in '61, IIRC it was 54 by Mick in '61)

20 What american league club has produced more than twice the number of batting champs?
20 What national league team in 1970 was shut out the most times?

21 What american league player had the highest batting average?
21 What national league tplayer hit the most home runs in a double header?

22 What team was nicknamed the Whiz Kids?
22 On opening day how many players is each team allowed on their active list?

23 Who pitched a perfect game but lost?
23 Who introduced the curve ball?

24 Who hit the first world series home run?
24 1969 marked what milestone for major league baseball?
(answer says Major League Baseball and is technically incorrect.
The first "major league" was the National Association formed in 1871.
1969 was the 100th anniversary of professional baseball.)

25 Who hit the first world series home run?
25 Who was called "the Georgia Peach"?

26 In what national league city have the fewest number of night games been played?
26 Who was the first US president to throw out the first ball starting the season?

27 In what national league city have the fewest number of night games been played?
27 What is the most world championships in a row?

[ALR-bishop]

I have 24 different instruction cards....different facts at bottom. Not sure how many are possible. Anyone know ?

[ALR-bishop]

Mike at Columbia City seems to think there are 24 to a "set". Hope he is right

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Fleer-I...AAAOSwvFZW8axZ

[Fleerfan]

Originally Posted by OlderTheBetter

Well I lied. I only have 27 different white background Baseball Quiz cards.

Some have errors and some are just very vaguely worded.

Each has four questions; shown are the first and last question on each card:

1 Who was the famous manager of the Philadelphia Athletics?
1 Who introduced the curve ball?

2 Who was the first first US president to throw out the first ball?
2 when was the frist time both teams in the world series wee from the same city?

3 Who was the second player to be inducted into the hall of fame?
3 What stadium has the deepest center-field in the American league?

4 Who was the second player to be inducted into the hall of fame?
4 Who played in the most World Series?

5 Who was the famous manager of the Giants from 1902 to 1932?
5 Babe Ruth has what two nicknames?

6 Who was the famous manager of the Giants from 1902 to 1932?
6 What was the first professional team?

7 Who makes the oficial baseball for the American League?
7 What position did Lou Gehrig play?

8 Who makes the oficial baseball for the American League?
8 Who are the two Yankees who have their uniform numbers retired?

9 What cities were represented in the first world series?
9 On opening day how many players are allowed on their active list?

10 What cities were represented in the first world series?
10 What is the fewest hits made by both clubs in one game?

11 What player created or equalled the most major league records?
11 When was the first World series?

12 What two national league pitchers share the record fo rmost 20 game winning seasons?
12 What team won the national league pennant in 1967?

13 What two national league pitchers share the record fo rmost 20 game winning seasons?
13 When did the Mets join the national league?

14 What was the first team to win six World Championships?
14 What pitcher pitched the mos consecutive shutout innings?

15 What was the first team to win six World Championships?
15 When was the world series first shown on TV?

16 Whast national league player won batting championships over the longest period of time?
16 When was the first professioal league formed?

17 In what year did Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs?
17 When a batted ball drops saely into shallow centerfield, what is it called?

18 In what year did Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs?
18 What pitcher holds the best World series record?

19 What american league club has produced more than twice the number of batting champs?
19 What switch hitter hit the most home runs in any one season?
(card incorrectly states 52 by Mantle in '61, IIRC it was 54 by Mick in '61)

20 What american league club has produced more than twice the number of batting champs?
20 What national league team in 1970 was shut out the most times?

21 What american league player had the highest batting average?
21 What national league tplayer hit the most home runs in a double header?

22 What team was nicknamed the Whiz Kids?
22 On opening day how many players is each team allowed on their active list?

23 Who pitched a perfect game but lost?
23 Who introduced the curve ball?

24 Who hit the first world series home run?
24 1969 marked what milestone for major league baseball?
(answer says Major League Baseball and is technically incorrect.
The first "major league" was the National Association formed in 1871.
1969 was the 100th anniversary of professional baseball.)

25 Who hit the first world series home run?
25 Who was called "the Georgia Peach"?

26 In what national league city have the fewest number of night games been played?
26 Who was the first US president to throw out the first ball starting the season?

27 In what national league city have the fewest number of night games been played?
27 What is the most world championships in a row?

On your card 26, does the first question actually read "In what national league city"? The yellow version of this card does not include the word city - it just says "In what National League have the fewest number of night games been played". Just curious to see if the white version reads the same.

[ALR-bishop]

City is missing on the whites

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

There are two versions of the baseball fact cards, which I tend to keep separate from the quiz cards. Baseball fact cards with Save All 19 in red are much tougher than the blacks. I have the Mets black but still need the Mets red, but here is an example



Darn you Troy...now I need another Mets Quiz card---the RBI card with a red Mets

Fortunately there was one on ebay :-)

Does anyone own or have a scan of a 1967 Fleer Fact Team Card of the Chicago Cubs, the harder to find "Save All 19 Cards" in red? It is the version that has stats from the 1966 season. I have seen other teams from the set, but never a Cubs. The Cubs went 59-103 in 1966, so I always thought that Fleer might have been too embarrassed to put that on a card and omitted them. Unlike another member here, I am not going to offer $20 for a scan, though .

[ALR-bishop]

Cliff---I have 10 of the red ones but no Cubs. The Cubies may reverse those win and loss numbers this year....unfortunately for my Cardinals. Maybe Barry or Fleerfan will have one

[OlderTheBetter]

I'm not yet finished with my Baseball Quiz card list, but I have 28 different white cards. Al says he has 28 diff yellow cards. Interesting. Will post my list when I get some time tonight.

[OlderTheBetter]

Lets talk Fleer Iron-ons.

I found more Fleer Iron-on instruction cards in my archives and
noticed that there are variations.

There's a "Baseball Fact" at the bottom of these cards accompanied
by the year of the event, and I have 11 different ones.

But all you Fleer issue completists probably know what all those existing
cards are, don't you?

[Fleerfan]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Cliff---I have 10 of the red ones but no Cubs. The Cubies may reverse those win and loss numbers this year....unfortunately for my Cardinals. Maybe Barry or Fleerfan will have one

I'm afraid I don't have the Cubs. So far I've only been able to track down 5 teams which I've attached. If anyone would mind sharing scans of any other 1967 cards with the W-L record and "Save All 19 Cards" in red, I'd appreciate it.

[OlderTheBetter]

I have more Fleer Decals and Fleer Quiz Cards (both white and yellow) for sale.

Send me a PM if you're interested.

[ALR-bishop]

FleerFan---here are some additional reds

[Fleerfan]

Thank you very much for the scans! Interesting to see that Fleer went back to the "Redlegs" logo for the Reds card.