Taking a break from the hobby (and that is why I hate .99 cent auctions!)

wilkiebaby11 · #1 04-25-2016, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right..hes good at math but terrible at sniping

Thankfully, I don't even have to have a well thought out rebuttal to your post since it's logic is somewhat flawed, but mostly because your reputation precedes you. Carry on.

1952boyntoncollector · #2 04-25-2016, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

Thankfully, I don't even have to have a well thought out rebuttal to your post since it's logic is somewhat flawed, but mostly because your reputation precedes you. Carry on.

I think you are the one building a reputation ..i never been accused of trying to alter a committed sale or anything negative ever about the actual transaction of buying and selling a card..(or 50+ posts on the topic where i have to defend a failed transaction)

Arguing about the merits of hitting for a cycle is one thing, being accused of unfair dealings in buying cards is another...and yes i know you would of bought the card, but trying to alter the deal over 10-20 bucks can go against a reputation.

I guess my logic is flawed and you are great at sniping and never make mistakes, sorry for my misunderstanding....

Peter_Spaeth · #3 04-25-2016, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I think you are the one building a reputation ..i never been accused of trying to alter a committed sale or anything negative ever about the actual transaction of buying and selling a card.. I guess my logic is flawed and you are great at sniping, sorry for my misunderstanding....

And he would have completed the transaction had Bob not agreed to cancel it, I am sure. He did nothing wrong asking Bob if he would make an accommodation given that his bid was a mistake.

1952boyntoncollector · #4 04-25-2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And he would have completed the transaction had Bob not agreed to cancel it, I am sure. He did nothing wrong asking Bob if he would make an accommodation given that his bid was a mistake.

How was his bid a mistake, he said my logic was flawed that he was bad in sniping(meaning his is great at it) Also i think bobby would dispute that he was going to pay timely...

I do agree its not a big deal, but my comment wasnt a big deal and he chose to bring up 'reputation', I not sure that was the right route for him to go with my comment....'he is good at math but bad at sniping' not sure how that was worth his wierd post.

kailes2872 · #5 04-25-2016, 08:08 PM

Late to the party but count me among those who speak on Steve's behalf. He has been a tremendous help to me in my quest as we have done several deals. He even went so far as to tip me off when a card on my want list was at a fair BIN price - when he could have purchased and put a premium on it and sold it to me. I had a post a couple of years ago because I did almost the identical thing. I put a bid in early and added an extra 0. I asked how to do a bid retraction. What followed was an assault on character. I was more than happy to pay whatever price and "take my medicine" but I feared getting shilled to ridiculous amounts. If we could just trust the process, things would work out and we would be fine - but with all of the ugly stuff in the hobby people tend to be on edge and assume the worst in folks.

I think Bobby is a great guy as well. He has sold me great material and we were going to partner on an REA lot last year if we got our price. Having dealt with both parties, I believe that positive intent was there. Sometimes fingers get fat. I am not sure why Bobby is exiting the hobby for a while, but perhaps every dollar sold really matters and it is an emotional time. Maybe everything is cool and he just wants to liquidate - I obviously don't know and don't want to presume - but I guess point being that the payment timing and amount of the sale could carry extra significance. All I know is that I come to this board to learn from the best, to chat with folks who love the same stuff that I do - because I normally get blank stares when I talk about it, and I occasionally get good deals. This high tension stuff is what I deal with in the normal crazy work day. Net54 is my escape. All in all, a bummer situation between two fantastic, honorable guys that has been remedied. I will now go look lovingly at my SGC80 '61 Marichal that is a tad OC and wish that it was a centered PSA6 because they now go for over 100 bucks!!

bobbyw8469 · #6 04-25-2016, 08:24 PM

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I will now go look lovingly at my SGC80 '61 Marichal that is a tad OC and wish that it was a centered PSA6 because they now go for over 100 bucks!!

Thank you for your kind words!! Why stop at the SGC 6 Marichal (don't get me started on the SGC vs PSA price disparities)? Go ahead and pull out that PSA 7 Joe Namath rookie card that will soon be over $10,000!

An unfortunate situation indeed. VCP is both a blessing and a curse. It is the best thing going though, compared to SMR and Beckett, for the baseball card market. Just not a be all that ends all.

wilkiebaby11 · #7 04-25-2016, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Thank you for your kind words!! Why stop at the SGC 6 Marichal (don't get me started on the SGC vs PSA price disparities)? Go ahead and pull out that PSA 7 Joe Namath rookie card that will soon be over $10,000!

An unfortunate situation indeed. VCP is both a blessing and a curse. It is the best thing going though, compared to SMR and Beckett, for the baseball card market. Just not a be all that ends all.

Gonna second Bobby on thanks for the kind words. Unfortunate situation between us. It's done though, so that's a relief.

Rich Klein · #8 04-26-2016, 08:06 AM

Of course, there is always the option of actually making a bid during the auction instead of sniping. If he had done that, he would have had plenty of time to realize he made a mistake and fixed his incorrect bid

Rich

bobbyw8469 · #9 04-26-2016, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Of course, there is always the option of actually making a bid during the auction instead of sniping. If he had done that, he would have had plenty of time to realize he made a mistake and fixed his incorrect bid

Rich

LOL!! Bidding? What do you think Ebay is? An auction house?? (kidding of course)

Peter_Spaeth · #10 04-26-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Of course, there is always the option of actually making a bid during the auction instead of sniping. If he had done that, he would have had plenty of time to realize he made a mistake and fixed his incorrect bid

Rich

There is ZERO reason to bid on a card in the course of an ebay auction.

Cozumeleno · #11 04-26-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There is ZERO reason to bid on a card in the course of an ebay auction.

While I agree with this for the most part (so much so that I hardly ever bid myself until the last minute or via snipe), snipes are not 100% locks. I've never had a problem with one but know that several here have had issues when their site (i.e. Gavelsnipe) has occasional glitches.

If I were bidding on an item that rarely came around and I couldn't be available to place a late bid, I might consider placing an earlier bid. But agree with you for the most part in that bidding early is unnecessary most of the time.

wilkiebaby11 · #12 04-25-2016, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Arguing about the merits of hitting for a cycle is one thing, being accused of unfair dealings in buying cards is another...and yes i know you would of bought the card, but trying to alter the deal over 10-20 bucks can go against a reputation.

I guess my logic is flawed and you are great at sniping and never make mistakes, sorry for my misunderstanding....

I made a mistake. I owned up to it. I asked for a possibilty of understanding, from one collector/net54 member to another. "Altering" the auction implies that I did it on purpose. That is not true. I only asked for empathy. I didnt get it, so I moved on... But wait.... there's now a post about me, and another from members asking what was going on. Drama then incurs.

Now I am just trying to defend myself, not the transaction. I think that most people would give me the benefit of the doubt. I explained myself well, I haven't ever done this before and I am not a nuisance at all on these boards. Pretty sure Robert is the first person that I've ever upset on here. And our transaction should have stayed private. As I thought me asking of a favor was harmless as the end result would have been either a) Bobby tells me to 'pound sand' and I pay for the item or b) Bobby does me "a solid"

and helps me out. Was going to be a) until all of this drama.

Hopefully this post isn't "weird".

1952boyntoncollector · #13 04-25-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

I made a mistake. I owned up to it. I asked for a possibilty of understanding, from one collector/net54 member to another. "Altering" the auction implies that I did it on purpose. That is not true. I only asked for empathy. I didnt get it, so I moved on... But wait.... there's now a post about me, and another from members asking what was going on. Drama then incurs.

Now I am just trying to defend myself, not the transaction. I think that most people would give me the benefit of the doubt. I explained myself well, I haven't ever done this before and I am not a nuisance at all on these boards. Pretty sure Robert is the first person that I've ever upset on here. And our transgression should have stayed private. As I thought me asking of a favor was harmless as the end result would have been either a) Bobby tells me to 'pound sand' and I pay for the item or b) Bobby does me "a solid"

and helps me out. Was going to be a) until all of this drama.

Hopefully this post isn't "weird".

nah this post is fine..glad no argument about paying a decent chunk more than VCP means has to be a mistake on a card thats hard to find centered which is centered...

i have had back and forths with robert as well..but you can see now that people jump in on threads no matter of what actually is presented on the thread..now you got a little taste.....

Peter_Spaeth · #14 04-25-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

I made a mistake. I owned up to it. I asked for a possibilty of understanding, from one collector/net54 member to another. "Altering" the auction implies that I did it on purpose. That is not true. I only asked for empathy. I didnt get it, so I moved on... But wait.... there's now a post about me, and another from members asking what was going on. Drama then incurs.

Now I am just trying to defend myself, not the transaction. I think that most people would give me the benefit of the doubt. I explained myself well, I haven't ever done this before and I am not a nuisance at all on these boards. Pretty sure Robert is the first person that I've ever upset on here. And our transgression should have stayed private. As I thought me asking of a favor was harmless as the end result would have been either a) Bobby tells me to 'pound sand' and I pay for the item or b) Bobby does me "a solid"

and helps me out. Was going to be a) until all of this drama.

Hopefully this post isn't "weird".

LOL you mean our transaction, not our transgression, I presume.

wilkiebaby11 · #15 04-25-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

LOL you mean our transaction, not our transgression, I presume.

Yes... haha. Just let be be a stereotypical math nerd and have incorrect grammar!

At least I was write, I mean right, on the "do me a solid" idiom.

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