Another T206 Wagner "? AUTHTCT"

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

The fact that they hide behind legal mumbo jumbo certainly doesn't make me like them any more.

so youre saying youre not a fan of just about any and every publicly traded company ever and the same goes for just about any document that someone else has handed you to sign. got it.

heres a psa: psa should be the least of your worries. and dont get on that rollercoaster! and dont you dare look at the back of a (insert favorite mlb team here) ticket!

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

so youre saying youre not a fan of just about any and every publicly traded company ever and the same goes for just about any document that someone else has handed you to sign. got it.

No...but I will say I am not a fan of legal, double speak mumbo jumbo written with the intent to deceive and confuse.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

so youre saying youre not a fan of just about any and every publicly traded company ever and the same goes for just about any document that someone else has handed you to sign. got it.

heres a psa: psa should be the least of your worries. and dont get on that rollercoaster!

And I'm not sure why you're even here...do you collect pre WW II cards???

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

And I'm not sure why you're even here...do you collect pre WW II cards???

really?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

really?

sorrybob...that was uncalled for...I'm going to take a time out now!

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

sorrybob...that was uncalled for...I'm going to take a time out now!

we're cool, pete!

just a message board and nothing should be taken too seriously.

time in.

[begsu1013]

to summerize the thread:

1. wagner can not be a broadleaf
2. the flip should be changed to not dupe idiots
3. terminology used is legal mumbo jumbo
4. they prolly wont change it due to monetary making and liability issues
5. fine print still blows
6. no one feels good defending psa

did i miss anything?

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

to summerize the thread:

1. wagner can not be a broadleaf
2. the flip should be changed to not dupe idiots
3. terminology used is legal mumbo jumbo
4. they prolly wont change it due to monetary making and liability issues
5. fine print still blows
6. no one feels good defending psa

did i miss anything?

Pretty much hit the nail on the head and saved many folks several pages of repetitive post.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

And I'm not sure why you're even here...do you collect pre WW II cards???

C'mon now, can't we all just get along?
This thread is about a pre-war card but is not entirely a pre-war conversation. If this side were very strictly kept to only pre-war cards themselves it would be a less fun place. Topics surrounding pre war seem fair game as well as a few off topics here and there (in moderation). I think summing it up (but still open for debate)-

Many (and myself) think there could be better wording on the ?AUT flips.
Many think it's fine the way it is.
Most think lawyers have something to do with this issue.


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[Pat R]

Fixed it

[vintagetoppsguy]

Thanks, Pat!

I would be fine if they just put N4 on the flip. At least that way if a potential buyer didn't know what that meant, they could go to PSA's website and at least see it's a counterfeit.

"N-4 Questionable Authenticity - This is the term used when a card is counterfeit"

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by Leon

C'mon now, can't we all just get along?
This thread is about a pre-war card but is not entirely a pre-war conversation. If this side were very strictly kept to only pre-war cards themselves it would be a less fun place. Topics surrounding pre war seem fair game as well as a few off topics here and there (in moderation). I think summing it up (but still open for debate)-

Many (and myself) think there could be better wording on the ?AUT flips.
Many think it's fine the way it is.
Most think lawyers have something to do with this issue.


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YUP, I blame the lawyers!

[begsu1013]

lawyers, guns and money.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

lawyers, guns and money.

Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll \m/\m/

[Bill77]

If nothing else PSA should not even send out a flip or make the flip a different color so as not to give the counterfeiters real flips for their trade.