These NL late inning 'no-hitters' are annoying

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Oh, brother.

i guess you are the horse being pulled? in any event always fun to talk baseball...i can be wrong or right who knows...but its not like no one shares my opinion..

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

i guess you are the horse being pulled? in any event always fun to talk baseball...i can be wrong or right who knows...but its not like no one shares my opinion..

from what i have read, you are pretty much wrong in every hot take you have. not sure how you can even afford to buy cards, but i guess wealth doesn't correlate with intelligence.

strikeouts are at an all time high, i would suspect that adds to the uptick in no-nos. if you can make contact there's a chance it'll find a hole. as for TJ pitchers are throwing harder than ever, and kids are throwing younger and year-round. i'm also pretty certain in the 30's and 40's alot of pitchers blew out their arms and needed TJ, but they just didn't know what it was at the time.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

from what i have read, you are pretty much wrong in every hot take you have. not sure how you can even afford to buy cards, but i guess wealth doesn't correlate with intelligence.

strikeouts are at an all time high, i would suspect that adds to the uptick in no-nos. if you can make contact there's a chance it'll find a hole. as for TJ pitchers are throwing harder than ever, and kids are throwing younger and year-round. i'm also pretty certain in the 30's and 40's alot of pitchers blew out their arms and needed TJ, but they just didn't know what it was at the time.

First of all, dont you have something better to do than to attack my intelligence on a thread where the last post was months ago until someone posted yesterday about that no hitters in general are arbitrary...so with that one post, you took it upon yourself to make a stupid comment......maybe you can wait a year next time to make a witty comeback on a thread.... who are you george constanza?

I didnt realize there was a right or wrong about whether an NL no hitter is much easier than an AL no hitter....... i thought there as a debate on the issue either way..and the large majority of the last 20 no hitters were NL or NL parks..there are many people that agree with my side on many things i have stated...you need to READ before you make self serving judgment..

plus your comment about how there is less contact, TJ surgery etc..would apply to both NL and AL...yet there are more almost NL no-nos and NL no nos in recent history than AL, which was my point.

what a witty post you had......thanks for the valuable contribution...

and you sound real intelligent when you attack a poster on their intelligence....thats real classy...

people can agree or disagree on things..but to say someone is an idiot really shows what kind of person you are when all it was supposed to be was a fun debate

[1952boyntoncollector]

Can add madison Baum's to the list.....NL no hitters and almost no hitters just arent like AL ones..

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Can add madison Baum's to the list.....NL no hitters and almost no hitters just arent like AL ones..

as I posted on the main page:

ALMOST a no-no, unlike some of the other 'advertised / hyped" on mlb.com, but...

speculation, of course, but MY personal opinion / thought is that the 'extended' offensive inning (Giants 7th) sucked a bit of momentum out of the Giants / Bum with the 2 insurance runs.

with 14 K's and only 1 BB, and with the exception of that one - solid - hit, MadBum was otherwise untouchable.

again, JMO, but one helluva great individual performance.

I see your point, Jake - TO A POINT - but...just sayin'.

fun game to watch - was pulling for the no-no.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

as I posted on the main page:

ALMOST a no-no, unlike some of the other 'advertised / hyped" on mlb.com, but...

speculation, of course, but MY personal opinion / thought is that the 'extended' offensive inning (Giants 7th) sucked a bit of momentum out of the Giants / Bum with the 2 insurance runs.

with 14 K's and only 1 BB, and with the exception of that one - solid - hit, MadBum was otherwise untouchable.

again, JMO, but one helluva great individual performance.

I see your point, Jake - TO A POINT - but...just sayin'.

fun game to watch - was pulling for the no-no.

i agree that many of these 'almost' No-NOs' are getting annoying on the MLB hype machine and that Bum's was much better than many this year..but again he got 2 outs from Archie Bradley who would be worse than every DH in the AL, pitch count would of been higher with a DH in most cases as well.....thus an AL almost no hitter would of meant something more...like i said in he original post, we keep hearing about NL no hitters.....much more than AL

[1952boyntoncollector]

Edwin Jackson 'almost' no hitter and was another one too..

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

i agree that many of these 'almost' No-NOs' are getting annoying on the MLB hype machine and that Bum's was much better than many this year..but again he got 2 outs from Archie Bradley who would be worse than every DH in the AL, pitch count would of been higher with a DH in most cases as well.....thus an AL almost no hitter would of meant something more...like i said in he original post, we keep hearing about NL no hitters.....much more than AL

Idk if I posted this already, but the entire "NO HITTER' thing is just a big hype machine. So many of them are not even that impressive of a performance (ie. lots of walks, amazing defensive plays behind the pitcher saving his butt) but ESPN and MLB Network are in the bidness of making $$$ so hype they do.

as far as the difference between the NL and the AL, facing a pitcher 2 times vs a DH (and the days of the monster DH as a rule are mostly over with a few exceptions) just isn't that huge. All a no hitter is ,is a confluence of variables leading to a result . But since there have been nearly 300 of them in MLB history, one can't even call them rare. They just are a flukey thing that happens every once in awhile when a pitcher's on the batters off and the defense is on point.


Would you say a 9 inning no hitter with 6 walks is MORE impressive than a one hit shutout with zero walks? I would argue the latter was the superior pitched game.