Something I hate about ballcard collecting

[glynparson]

Do not tell me i do not love baseball cards. You do not know how others feel about things. Why do you get to decide what is appropriate. Maybe you should have bid higher for the card instead of losing out on it then coming hear and complaining. You had more info than the flip gave you so you had the opportunity to go strong. So tired of people whining and complaining about people making money. People have been making nice livings selling cards for decades now. Because you may choose to not go after much profit does not mean others shouldn't. Heck i have made that much in the past by buying a card and selling it as i was walking back to my table. What a person pays for an incorrectly labeled and/or priced item is irrelevant in my honest opinion. For the record i did not buy the gray back nor did i see it but i would have no problem paying 1600 for something and marking it 5500 just days later. A seller is not required to sell something cheaper because he got a good deal on it. I think you thinking you were entitled to the card for less than retail, because you would "cherish it" is far more annoying then someone trying to make a big score.

[Neal]

Part of the fun of the hobby is reading posts like this one ....

I agree with Glynn, btw. All of it.

[Exhibitman]

Gynn, Neal:

Ditto. The flip is sometimes the most rewarding part of the game. I love picking a card from a commons pile or junk box or eBay sale knowing it has a value far in excess of what I paid for it. If I know what it is I have to assume someone else does too and if I miss it because I underbid, that's my problem. It isn't like the seller cancelled the sale because he wanted more money.

[Republicaninmass]

It isn't like the seller cancelled the sale because he wanted more money"

Or a 'pricing error'!

If it wasn't for the flips and trades in the hobby, I wouldn't have 50% of the cards I have today.

[flkersn]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Do not tell me i do not love baseball cards. You do not know how others feel about things. Why do you get to decide what is appropriate. Maybe you should have bid higher for the card instead of losing out on it then coming hear and complaining. You had more info than the flip gave you so you had the opportunity to go strong. So tired of people whining and complaining about people making money. People have been making nice livings selling cards for decades now. Because you may choose to not go after much profit does not mean others shouldn't. Heck i have made that much in the past by buying a card and selling it as i was walking back to my table. What a person pays for an incorrectly labeled and/or priced item is irrelevant in my honest opinion. For the record i did not buy the gray back nor did i see it but i would have no problem paying 1600 for something and marking it 5500 just days later. A seller is not required to sell something cheaper because he got a good deal on it. I think you thinking you were entitled to the card for less than retail, because you would "cherish it" is far more annoying then someone trying to make a big score.

I agree, in general, with your comments. But please don't confuse "market price" with "asking price". The former is $1600, the latter is currently $5500. As you know there are several examples of gray backs currently on EBay with high asking prices--the market price is yet to be determined.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by flkersn

I agree, in general, with your comments. But please don't confuse "market price" with "asking price". The former is $1600, the latter is currently $5500. As you know there are several examples of gray backs currently on EBay with high asking prices--the market price is yet to be determined.

also whoever buys the card loves the hobby most likely...

[DBesse27]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

also whoever buys the card loves the hobby most likely...

Who cares?

[OlderTheBetter]

Originally Posted by DBesse27

Who cares?

Exactly. Collecting cards and buying/selling cards don't have to intersect.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by OlderTheBetter

Exactly. Collecting cards and buying/selling cards don't have to intersect.

i agree....just saying that to people who may be upset about the flip can take solace that the new buyer is good for the hobby

if everyone is just into flipping..it actually could be a problem ie. See real esate market in 2008ish

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

i agree....just saying that to people who may be upset about the flip can take solace that the new buyer is good for the hobby

if everyone is just into flipping..it actually could be a problem ie. See real esate market in 2008ish

You are not saying that when your neighbor is telling you how easy it is to flip (houses) you should be nervous?

[RollieFingers]

It's ok to make as much as you want.

But if they are willing to go that extreme, they probably can't be trusted on smaller transactions or trading or what ever?

[OlderTheBetter]

Originally Posted by RollieFingers

It's ok to make as much as you want.

Of course it is. I'll go so far as to say that this is the major thing that that keeps the hobby healthy. It's certainly not younger collectors. Without the influx of new investors and buyers/sellers since the Internet, this hobby would probably be in recession mode like antiquarian books, stamps and coins.

How many of us would ignore the opportunity to flip a $1600 card for $3000? Certainly not me. I wouldn't have most of my current collection without flipping.

[zachtruitt]

There is no such thing as a "true collector" and if you think you are one of those special little snowflakes then find something else to be self-righteous about.

[OlderTheBetter]

There certainly are "true collectors". They are either so wealthy that money is no object, or they're under the age of 15.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Gynn, Neal:

Ditto. The flip is sometimes the most rewarding part of the game. I love picking a card from a commons pile or junk box or eBay sale knowing it has a value far in excess of what I paid for it. If I know what it is I have to assume someone else does too and if I miss it because I underbid, that's my problem. It isn't like the seller cancelled the sale because he wanted more money.

Picked up this little lot for $20 from a local card shop.

He deals strictly in hockey cards but took these in on trade so I didn't feel the least bit guilty purchasing them from him. He started at $40 and we ended up at $20.

Not that I'd make out large on the lot or remotely close to it but I know I got them pretty cheap when comparing them to market value.

[TheNightmanCometh]

This doesn't really apply here as my story is about a modern card. A few years ago I was able to snag a 2013 Topps Heritage gold card, 1 of 5, of Felix Hernandez for less than $100. At the time, gold cards of top shelf players were selling around $300. I tried selling it for around that price and it sat for months and months; eventually I sold it to a nice lady, on eBay, for a little more than I paid for it. Found out today that she sent it to PSA, got it graded, came back as a GM 10, and she sold it for $250. I stumbled upon it looking for another card, but I sent her a message congratulating her on the flip.

Of course I proceeded to kick myself for the next 10 minutes for not sending it to PSA myself. So dumb!!!

[Jeff1970Red]

I experienced the frustration of losing out on a much wanted pair of Topps Heritage Venezuelan Trout's. I rode the bull of anger for a full 8 seconds before focusing my attention and cash elsewhere.

These cards are amazing...best to the buyer/seller.

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by zachtruitt

There is no such thing as a "true collector" and if you think you are one of those special little snowflakes then find something else to be self-righteous about.

This must be very profound.... in some way or another