Do creases still bother collectors as much

[irv]

Originally Posted by Leon

Not to beat the dead horse but the best centered cards won/are winning in the poll as well as everyday practices, if what I am seeing in the hobby is legit . (and I think most of it is). I have seen far greater eye appeal issues with roller marks on these '51 Mantle cards. For this to get a 2, to me, is somewhat disingenuous. It is my opinion that PSA wants resubmissions...and they won't get one from me on this one. Or the other one I have coming in. I am not playing the resubmit game (yet) and am hoping cards sell for what they are supposed to based on what most collectors want, eye appeal. I would like to see a better '51 Mantle in a PSA 2 holder....that is a challenge? (shown above too but this is a bit larger to capture all of the flaws) I don't know how anyone in the hobby would say that is a 2 on of a scale of 10 ? Really?

Leon, I have said it many times on here, through my educating/research, there isn't a lot of consistency when it comes to grading it seems.

I have seen more than a few 4's that look a lot worse than your card, and some are fairly new submissions.

Luckily for you, I would assume you saved hundreds purchasing that 2 compared to a 4 or higher, or did you submit this one and it only came back a 2?
If that is the case, then I don't blame you for not wanting to play the re-submit game.

[Leon]

I bought it raw and that was my very first card ever sending into PSA .

Originally Posted by irv

Leon, I have said it many times on here, through my educating/research, there isn't a lot of consistency when it comes to grading it seems.

I have seen more than a few 4's that look a lot worse than your card, and some are fairly new submissions.

Luckily for you, I would assume you saved hundreds purchasing that 2 compared to a 4 or higher, or did you submit this one and it only came back a 2?
If that is the case, then I don't blame you for not wanting to play the re-submit game.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Leon

I bought it raw and that was my very first card ever sending into PSA .

Is that a crease running vertical across Mick's back? If not, and with no paper loss that I can see, it's clear to see the grader was having a bad day or forgot his glasses at home.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by irv

Is that a crease running vertical across Mick's back? If not, and with no paper loss that I can see, it's clear to see the grader was having a bad day or forgot his glasses at home.

That is a crease but it doesn't go through to the back so it's really more of a wrinkle. And that wrinkle does spider towards the top and break off into another wrinkle which can't be seen from the scan. Neither go through to the back. That is the reason for the 2 but you would think the overall eye appeal should warrant at least a half grade higher, if not a full grade. I am obviously biased .

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

For me the answer to this depends on what era I am collecting. As a postwar collector, I own no cards with creases and do not plan on changing that anytime soon. Lately, I have become interested in T206. If I am going to go very far into that, there will be (and already are) some creasing. As long as the crease doesn't run right through the middle of the card or in the subject's face, I am finding I can live with it. For cards produced 1909-1911, some creasing doesn't bother me.