63 Rose PSA 7

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This was a 2K card or less twelve days ago. One is at 5900 on ebay and still open for bidding, days to go in fact. Damn that stiff competition for nice cards. Carry on.

Is it your opinion that all of these off the chart sales over the past few months on these key RCs from the 50s-60s are indeed legit sales OR are these sales results nothing more than clever attempts to manipulate the market price for these cards?

In other words, do you know of any legit buyers or sellers of these high end cards at these recently inflated prices.

[Republicaninmass]

The card is hideous, but tough to find in high grade. What has changed in the past few months to warrant a price increase?

[Stonepony]

I think people have realized you have to pony up if you want the card. My recent PSA 6 53T Mantle smashed thru it's prior ceiling. I'm not part of any conspiracy and actually paid far less than my max bid/ snipe. Attention is now on iconic post war cards and you have to spend big to play. It's here to stay.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

The card is hideous, but tough to find in high grade. What has changed in the past few months to warrant a price increase?

What has changed in TEN DAYS to warrant it doubling? Or more than doubling?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Is it your opinion that all of these off the chart sales over the past few months on these key RCs from the 50s-60s are indeed legit sales OR are these sales results nothing more than clever attempts to manipulate the market price for these cards?

In other words, do you know of any legit buyers or sellers of these high end cards at these recently inflated prices.

I suspect some legit people get caught up in the manipulation, as they always do in pump and dump schemes.

[ALR-bishop]

Dave--- are little horses a part of your world or did you tour with Linda Ronstadt

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Dave--- are little horses a part of your world or did you tour with Linda Ronstadt

I dated her before Govenor Brown. I was 13

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I suspect some legit people get caught up in the manipulation, as they always do in pump and dump schemes.

Could you give some examples of iconic cards which were similarly bought up at extraordinary prices and then dumped causing a price collapse ?
I'm not suggesting it's not happened, I'm just interested in some examples at the prices we're currently talking about( I'm not interested in $100 cards that are now $2)

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Could you give some examples of iconic cards which were similarly bought up at extraordinary prices and then dumped causing a price collapse ?
I'm not suggesting it's not happened, I'm just interested in some examples at the prices we're currently talking about( I'm not interested in $100 cards that are now $2)

It hasn't happened yet because these mega moves (doubling in days) tripling in weeks) within a generally rising market (which I think is legit) are a fairly new thing. But just my opinion. If you want to spend 6k on a plentiful card that was available two weeks ago for 2k, go for it.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It hasn't happened yet because these mega moves (doubling in days) tripling in weeks) within a generally rising market (which I think is legit) are a fairly new thing. But just my opinion. If you want to spend 6k on a plentiful card that was available two weeks ago for 2k, go for it.

It would be interesting to list a few such cards in a thread " time capsule" which could be visited in 2-3 years to see how they're holding up

[Republicaninmass]

The kid certainly pumped up prices on the 1952 Bartirome, there aren't any for sale, and people who need them are bidding them up to try and just have a copy before they are "gone". The question is, is he going to sell at the top, or is Tony is "father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate" or what have you?

[irv]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

The kid certainly pumped up prices on the 1952 Bartirome, there aren't any for sale, and people who need them are bidding them up to try and just have a copy before they are "gone". The question is, is he going to sell at the top, or is Tony is "father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate" or what have you?

Only one I could find, and it's Dean's cards.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-3...192?rmvSB=true

[stlcardsfan]

Lot of speculation about other hobby run up as well here:

http://boards.collectors-society.com...369196&fpart=1

Guess people think the economy is healthy again and that is when bubbles are created. I think that is what we are seeing here.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

The kid certainly pumped up prices on the 1952 Bartirome, there aren't any for sale, and people who need them are bidding them up to try and just have a copy before they are "gone". The question is, is he going to sell at the top, or is Tony is "father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate" or what have you?

I noticed that as well. When you see them, even ungraded copies, they are up there!

Originally Posted by stlcardsfan

Lot of speculation about other hobby run up as well here:

http://boards.collectors-society.com...369196&fpart=1

Guess people think the economy is healthy again and that is when bubbles are created. I think that is what we are seeing here.

Just read a bit of that and had no idea other hobbies/collectibles were following, (or we're following them?), card collecting.