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Old 06-03-2016, 05:09 PM
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Default Grading Company's incorrect dating of the 1949 LEAF cards

OK guys, here I go again in my criticism of PSA, SGC, etc. because of their wrong dates on their flips regarding the 1949 LEAF cards.

But, I do salute PSA and SGC for getting it right on the 1949 LEAF Premiums. Most of us (old dudes) who were lucky enough to collect these cards in 1949
remember that these HOFer picture premiums were included in the 24-count wax-pack boxes. There is absolutely no doubt that the Premiums were issued
simultaneously with the cards.


So, can any of you explain this contradiction. Why do the Premiums' flips have a 1949 date, while the BB cards' flips have "fictitious" dates ?


SGC identifies these cards as 1948-1949, I don't know how Beckett dates them, and PSA is totally incorrect with their 1948 date........






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Old 06-08-2016, 07:37 PM
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Default Short-Print series......

It looks this thread is winding down. But, before it fades away onto page 2, it would be nice to have displayed all the 2nd series short-print cards,
since these cards are not often seen. So far, we have already posted about 1/2 of the 49 cards in this series.

Therefore, here are 9 more......




Incidentally......the Orval Grove bio is one of several bios in this set that reinforces the fact that the 1949 LEAF cards were never issued in 1948.
This card mentions the trade of Early Wynn from Washington to Cleveland on Dec 14, 1948.


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Old 06-09-2016, 07:27 PM
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Default 1949 LEAF BB cards vs Premiums

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OK guys, here I go again in my criticism of PSA, SGC, etc. because of their wrong dates on their flips regarding the 1949 LEAF cards.


So, can any of you explain this contradiction. Why do the Premiums' flips have a 1949 date, while the BB cards' flips have "fictitious" dates ?


SGC identifies these LEAF cards as "1948-1949" ........ and, PSA identifies these LEAF cards as "1948"........ both are WRONG !








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I reiterate....Can any of you explain this contradiction. Why are the Premiums' flips correctly dated 1949....while the BB cards' flips have "fictitious" dates ?


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Before this thread fades away....I thought it would be nice to have displayed all the 2nd series short-print cards, since these cards are not often seen.

So far, we have posted about 1/2 of the 49 cards in this series. In post #89, I added 9 new short-prints. And, here is another group of short-prints....





One more group to complete this series of 49 short-prints will be posted later.


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Four pretty good arms. Tough cards and tough to hit. All short prints.
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Four pretty good arms. Tough cards and tough to hit. All short prints.

That's a beautiful satchel.. Man......
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Old 06-10-2016, 08:12 PM
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Default 1949 LEAF short-print series......

Hi Mike

Those 4 beauties are awesome......you are the quintessential 1949 LEAF BB card collector.


OK guys,

With this group of 1949 LEAF's, we have completed the display in this thread of all 49 cards in the 2nd series (short-prints).



.................................................. ........ Last card in set (#168)




It's always nice to see more of these LEAF cards, especially the various color printing anomalies....so, show us your LEAF's.


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FYI....1949 LEAF 2nd series (short-prints) checklist by teams......


BOSTON BRAVES
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ALVIN DARK
TOMMY HOLMES
HAROLD REISER

BOSTON RED SOX
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MATHEW BATTS
DOM DiMAGGIO
BILLY GOODMAN
JOHNNY PESKY
VERN STEPHENS

CHICAGO CUBS
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PHIL CAVARETTA
FRANK GUSTINE
EMIL LEONARD
HARRY LOWREY
BOB SCHEFFING
JOHNNY SCHMITZ
HARRY WALKER

CHICAGO WHITE SOX
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FLOYD BAKER
ORVAL GROVE
CASIMER MICHAELS
DAVE PHILLEY

CINCINNATI REDS
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BOBBY ADAMS
HANK SAUER
JOHN WYROSTEK

CLEVELAND INDIANS
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BOB FELLER
LEROY PAIGE
LARRY DOBY
KEN KELTNER
DALE MITCHELL

DETROIT TIGERS
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GEORGE KELL
HAL NEWHOUSER
WALTER EVERS
FRED HUTCHINSON
VIRGIL TRUCKS

NEW YORK GIANTS
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SID GORDON

NEW YORK YANKEES
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TOMMY HENRICH

PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS
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EDDIE JOOST
HENRY MAJESKI
BARNEY McCOSKY

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
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ED MILLER
DICK SISLER

PITTSBURGH PIRATES
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KIRBY HIGBE
DANNY MURTAUGH
EDDIE STEVENS

ST LOUIS BROWNS
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BOB DILLINGER
CLIFFORD FANNIN
AL ZARILLA

ST LOUIS CARDINALS
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ENOS SLAUGHTER
HARRY BRECHEEN
GEORGE KUROWSKI

WASHINGTON SENATORS
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EDDIE STEWART



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