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Old 06-06-2016, 10:50 AM
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I'm probably in the minority but I'm glad eBay is the way it is now. I can't tell you how many times I used to get ripped off in the good old days when you paid for almost everything with a money order. It's easy to complete a transaction as a buyer: send the money. It was my experience that sellers had the issue keeping up their end. And back then your only recourse was to leave negative feedback.
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Old 06-06-2016, 11:41 AM
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I'm probably in the minority but I'm glad eBay is the way it is now. I can't tell you how many times I used to get ripped off in the good old days when you paid for almost everything with a money order. It's easy to complete a transaction as a buyer: send the money. It was my experience that sellers had the issue keeping up their end. And back then your only recourse was to leave negative feedback.
I never had an issue with sending or receiving checks or money orders in the "old days."

About 15 years ago a buyer stiffed me for $1,100 using Paypal. I delivered and had delivery confirmation proof, but made the mistake of not getting a signature (at the buyer's request because he was never home, etc., etc.) He had high feedback and seemed legit. Naive on my part.

45 days after it was delivered and positive feedback was left, the buyer claimed it was unauthorized use of his account and Paypal reversed the transaction. The scammers know every loophole to play eBay and Paypal.
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Old 06-06-2016, 12:27 PM
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does anyone wonder why ebay stock has fallen more than half from it's high ? it is avoided by investors.The anti-seller policy is one reason,in my mind.
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Old 06-06-2016, 02:37 PM
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I never had an issue with sending or receiving checks or money orders in the "old days."

About 15 years ago a buyer stiffed me for $1,100 using Paypal. I delivered and had delivery confirmation proof, but made the mistake of not getting a signature (at the buyer's request because he was never home, etc., etc.) He had high feedback and seemed legit. Naive on my part.

45 days after it was delivered and positive feedback was left, the buyer claimed it was unauthorized use of his account and Paypal reversed the transaction. The scammers know every loophole to play eBay and Paypal.
Ok but you don't see the benefits of PayPal for buyer protection? eBay exists as a buyer-driven marketplace. If you can't protect the buyer, why would a buyer use your service?
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:02 PM
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Ok but you don't see the benefits of PayPal for buyer protection? eBay exists as a buyer-driven marketplace. If you can't protect the buyer, why would a buyer use your service?
Of course buyer protection has value, but where do you draw the line? Paypal allows obvious scammers to play the system in a way that real credit card companies would not permit.

eBay is a "buyer driven marketplace." What is this supposed to mean? ALL retailers are buyer driven marketplaces. Yet I'd bet the buyer scam games aren't nearly as high at other retailers where consumers typically use real bank cards... and have to sign a witnessed affidavit if they are going to claim seller fraud.
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:03 PM
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Buyer driven means it's a platform for people to buy things. There are other platforms that act as sales-driven mediums, such as conventions and product demos. That's not what eBay does. I hear you on the scams but nothing is safe from scams. I would think the overall percentage of people using PayPal to scam others is relatively low. So low that I'm sure PayPal sides with the buyer usually by default because the chances of something nefarious happening are negligible, except of course when it happens to you.

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In response to the OP: Walk away. Life is too short to waste time dealing with morons.
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In response to the OP: Walk away. Life is too short to waste time dealing with morons.
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In response to the OP: Walk away. Life is too short to waste time dealing with morons.
++ So right you are Adam.

Two morons to add to this ebay story.

1- I had sold an autographed photo on ebay that was personalized. I had a VERY CLEAR picture of it in my ad. I did not state in my ad copy that it was personalized.
SIXTY DAYS after the buyer received it he returned it saying that because it is personalized it does not fit in his collection.
This was a $15 item.

2- I had a group of 23 photos in one lot on ebay. One buyer asked me to sell him one of the pictures (which was pictured in my ad). I sold it to that buyer.
Two weeks later I get the photo back in the mail. No explanation, just the photo.
This was a $25 item.

I refunded both morons and placed them on my banned list.
Nothing else to do when dealing with morons.
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